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billyb

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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #450 on: July 18, 2020, 01:41:05 AM »
Wagner is a really good bowler. He is so underrated!

I was delighted with England's performance yesterday. I love seeing a Warwickshire player perform, and hopefully Woakes joins in tomorrow too. Ben Stokes is incredible.
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« Reply #451 on: July 18, 2020, 03:47:45 AM »
Anyone noticed Butler has changed his technique a little this series. He used to be semi open but is very closed off now. He seemed more natural before and I thought he is struggling for anything straight now.
Maybe he is over complicating things, I think it is just his mindset he needs to get right before he can score tons of runs.
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« Reply #452 on: July 18, 2020, 07:01:08 AM »
Hoping that a quick-ish 40 isn't used to justify Buttler in the side for the next year and a half. Foakes has scored his share of quick runs, look at his 50 over record for example.
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« Reply #453 on: July 18, 2020, 07:48:46 AM »
I don't think Butler has played his natural game when playing these last 2 years.whether he has not been able to or thinks he should play differently in tests who knows.

He has actually knuckled down and had some decent innings in a few matches.

Foakes should be in for me but Butler has been given longer because he is that talented or because he is a Smith pick-take your choice on that view.

I well remember the 80's selection which was players coming and going like the clappers, so to give a player extra time is far better I think.

As long as we do not go backwards to Bairstow and forward with Foakes maybe for the winter I think it's ok.

Yes Foakes should be in, but at least selection seems consistent.

You would hope Burns,Crawley and Pope, Dom Bess do get a good run to get some confidence behind them.
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #454 on: July 18, 2020, 10:24:09 AM »
Glenn Turner and Mark Richardson average more than Dom Sibley as opener. So I’m not sure why some feel it worthwhile to make such moronic statements.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #455 on: July 18, 2020, 04:29:05 PM »
Quote from: DorsetDan on July 18, 2020, 03:47:52 PM
He looked like his trigger was going to have him stepping on his own toes. Very cramped and weird. It certainly didn't look natural for him but I guess the aim is towards being more "compact" and less "loose and armsey*"

* that is a technical term of course ;)

When I look at the English batting I frequently ask what are they trying to coach.
I am all for idiosyncrasies but they need to improve a player not break them.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #456 on: July 18, 2020, 06:39:57 PM »
Quote from: alba caerulea on July 18, 2020, 04:07:05 PM
Hit a nerve did I Gerry? Are the admins going to do anything about this guy who has obviously been banned under several different names???

But actually at the time I checked when Sibley was still not out he had a higher average than both turner and richardson.

Shame its been rained off today, makes it easier for people to criticise the strike rate! Do people think there is still a chance of a result?



Mate..don't waste your replies, I dunno when we are playing NZ but it's miles away. West Indies are enough for us to deal with, they have taken a pay cut to come here and from the cricket I have seen we've outplayed them in 1 day so far when they were knackered in the field. Stokes is outstanding yes, but we are 0-1 down and barring a miracle of 19 wickets in 2 days will stay that way.

Let's get back on track and I love a discussion about England just as much as everyone else.  :)
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #457 on: July 18, 2020, 07:02:34 PM »
Agreed. West indies more than a match for this current england team. Thoroughly outplayed us last time away.

Would like to have seen if this current strategy is the way forward with a full 5 days to play with but not to be. 19 wickets in two days is not unheard of vrs this WI batting line up just depends if there is significant deterioration in the track. Not sure of the forecast for the next 2 days but early wickets tomorrow its game on
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« Reply #458 on: July 19, 2020, 04:07:05 AM »
I just love seeing a strong West Indies team... And they are truly a team. I'm not always convinced that England are.
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #459 on: July 19, 2020, 07:48:42 AM »
I am not sure this is a particularly strong WI team. I think these are two mid table teams playing well matched cricket.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #460 on: July 19, 2020, 08:24:17 AM »
Let’s not forget windies have left 3 of their better players at home.
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #461 on: July 19, 2020, 10:17:48 AM »
Horrible start to the day
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #462 on: July 19, 2020, 10:31:22 AM »
Quote from: alba caerulea on July 18, 2020, 04:07:05 PM


Shame its been rained off today, makes it easier for people to criticise the strike rate! Do people think there is still a chance of a result?

The weather was forecast as a wash out yesterday in the North West so the point about the strike rate has to be considered in the context of a game England has to win knowing that only 4 days play will be possible.

England can still win this by bowling well today but it is going to be an uphill struggle If we keep letting chances pass by.
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #463 on: July 19, 2020, 10:46:44 AM »
Archer might’ve been decent on this pitch...
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #464 on: July 19, 2020, 11:26:50 AM »
Still loving the look of Brathwaite's MIDS bat. Would like to get some of those stickers
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