Topic: Has anyone started to see any 2021 stash? (Read 40186 times)

richyreed · « **Reply #90 on:** November 12, 2020, 12:23:05 PM »

Got a 10+ grain 2'9 GM Chroma Signature ordered, can't wait to get it!

richyreed · « **Reply #91 on:** November 12, 2020, 03:46:36 PM »

Which one would you choose? Same weight for both of them.

Jimbo · « **Reply #92 on:** November 12, 2020, 04:09:06 PM »

Left for me.

SD · « **Reply #93 on:** November 12, 2020, 04:48:56 PM »

Left one.

As someone who is into my fourth decade buying cricket bats (having just squeezed my first one in before the end of the 1980s) my perception is they grading is becoming less generous. I have a grade 3 Duncan Fearnley from the 90s that aesthetically looks as good as some of the G1 bats you see today. The one brand that seems to buck that trend for me is GM. VFM wise they are the best on the market for me

Jimbo · « **Reply #94 on:** November 12, 2020, 05:06:02 PM »

Quote from: SD on November 12, 2020, 04:48:56 PM

Left one.

As someone who is into my fourth decade buying cricket bats (having just squeezed my first one in before the end of the 1980s) my perception is they grading is becoming less generous. I have a grade 3 Duncan Fearnley from the 90s that aesthetically looks as good as some of the G1 bats you see today. The one brand that seems to buck that trend for me is GM. VFM wise they are the best on the market for me

Still some very generous grading available, particularly among the smaller boutique brands. Couldn't comment on the big boys as all my recent purchases have been from the smaller makers I've found via the forum.

richyreed · « **Reply #95 on:** November 12, 2020, 05:21:58 PM »

Quote from: SD on November 12, 2020, 04:48:56 PM

Left one.

As someone who is into my fourth decade buying cricket bats (having just squeezed my first one in before the end of the 1980s) my perception is they grading is becoming less generous. I have a grade 3 Duncan Fearnley from the 90s that aesthetically looks as good as some of the G1 bats you see today. The one brand that seems to buck that trend for me is GM. VFM wise they are the best on the market for me

It's all down the the willow supply, the demand is just out-stripping the supply. Even J S Wright's are pushing the benefits of less grainy clefts - https://www.instagram.com/p/CE40KmfhmqE/

I'd assume GM have their own willow supply which is why they can grade so generously.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #96 on:** November 12, 2020, 05:52:21 PM »

Do GM have their own willow supply? And, if so, since when? And where is it?

SD · « **Reply #97 on:** November 12, 2020, 05:58:13 PM »

Quote from: richyreed on November 12, 2020, 05:21:58 PM

It's all down the the willow supply, the demand is just out-stripping the supply. Even J S Wright's are pushing the benefits of less grainy clefts - https://www.instagram.com/p/CE40KmfhmqE/

I'd assume GM have their own willow supply which is why they can grade so generously.

I assume - but stand to be corrected if wrong - that trees still produce on average the same proportion of clefts across the impeccable to clefts-only-a-mother-could-love scale as has always been the case. I can appreciate that where demand for the best looking clefts increases, then the prices such bays will attract goes up. What it seems to me though is that many brands are now pushing into the G1 - or indeed the plethora of G1+ LE Players grades - category bats that wouldn't previously have been graded as such simply to charge more for them. GM is a brand that for me has been more honest with the customer

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #98 on:** November 12, 2020, 07:09:00 PM »

But we never did really get a convincing answer from Edward Lowry as to whether they graded on looks or performance? I think he ended up suggesting the good looking willow played better but could not say why.

There are several manufacturers (not GM) claiming to be the only ones with their own willow supply. They can't all be!

I like GMs transparency in making their own bats and not making for anyone else.

Gurujames · « **Reply #99 on:** November 12, 2020, 07:29:57 PM »

Didn�t he suggest that it was a mixture of looks and performance? That�s what I remember. I�m probably wrong.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #100 on:** November 12, 2020, 07:50:06 PM »

Quote from: Gurujames on November 12, 2020, 07:29:57 PM

Didn�t he suggest that it was a mixture of looks and performance? That�s what I remember. I�m probably wrong.

I think he did, actually. A bit of a woolly explanation really. Why does a cricket bat need to be good looking anyway?

Six Sixes Cricket · « **Reply #101 on:** November 12, 2020, 08:38:43 PM »

GM have there own willow supply as well as receiving willow from Js wrights

GN also have there own supply of willow

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #102 on:** November 12, 2020, 09:00:50 PM »

Quote from: Six Sixes Cricket on November 12, 2020, 08:38:43 PM

GM have there own willow supply as well as receiving willow from Js wrights

GN also have there own supply of willow

I seem to remember at various times hearing Kippax, H4L and Salix all claiming to be unique in this regard. But I might be remembering wrong.

Six Sixes Cricket · « **Reply #103 on:** November 12, 2020, 09:58:18 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on November 12, 2020, 09:00:50 PM

I seem to remember at various times hearing Kippax, H4L and Salix all claiming to be unique in this regard. But I might be remembering wrong.

Kippax have always been a willow supplier haven�t they? Matt at H4l has his own supply as well. Don�t know about Salix, never really dealt with them.
There is also a few other willow suppliers that also make bats as well. Just Wrights are the biggest supplier

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #104 on:** November 12, 2020, 11:04:33 PM »

Quote from: Six Sixes Cricket on November 12, 2020, 09:58:18 PM

Kippax have always been a willow supplier haven�t they? Matt at H4l has his own supply as well. Don�t know about Salix, never really dealt with them.
There is also a few other willow suppliers that also make bats as well. Just Wrights are the biggest supplier

My point was only that they perhaps weren't as unique as they might have claimed to be.

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