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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #300 on: January 12, 2021, 02:26:12 PM »
Quote from: csnew on January 12, 2021, 06:55:04 AM
As expected Paine had claimed it was smith shadow batting.  “if he was then the Indian players would have kicked up a bit of a stink at the time” - made me laugh.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/australia-vs-india-3rd-test-australia-close-ranks-around-quite-upset-steven-smith-over-stump-cam-footage-1247555

Granted it looks dodgy. But in the video, pant just comes back and checks his guard - he doesn’t remark it. So if he doesn’t remark it, Smith obviously did not remove it.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #301 on: January 12, 2021, 03:59:37 PM »
Just checked the footage again from cricinfo, Pant does mark all stumps again.

Firstly, Smith scrubs off after shadow batting not before shadow batting. If one was really shadow batting, he would mark first then shadow bat, who would do the shadow batting first and then mark crease..
Secondly, marking in crease would be to mark a line, but Smith looks like he isn't marking a line but scrubbing out at multiple places as if to join/erase several markings
Third, Smith wasn't even shadow batting, he just comes, stands and takes a look, then rubs and leaves, so don't buy the the shadow batting coverup.
Lastly whether he was successful in erasing out marking or not is moot as he had only a couple seconds before batsmen got to crease so possible that whatever he attempted wasn't fully successful, the fact that something like that was even attempted itself is bad enough..


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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #302 on: January 12, 2021, 07:09:23 PM »
Being a right handed batsmen why is he shadow batting as left handed? :)
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #303 on: January 13, 2021, 01:28:39 PM »
Aussies just don`t get it,do they......After sandpapergate,surely just stfu and get on with the game,but no,how dare we criticise them for extreme gamemanship (at best),and i see holier than thou coach Langer criticising anyone being vocal about what they saw,beggars belief !
A few of their ex players piling into Michael Vaughan on twitter too after he voiced his doubts on Smith`s action,and they wonder why the cricket world dislikes them
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #304 on: January 13, 2021, 02:24:47 PM »
I don't get why he felt the need to personally. Imagine if it was the other way around and the batsmen went and marked his own run up out and moved the marker...
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #305 on: January 13, 2021, 02:28:26 PM »
I know what I'd be doing at the first Aussie innings drinks break if I was Rishabh Pant...
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #306 on: January 13, 2021, 03:01:14 PM »
I haven't watched these tests to gain a real perspective of how these incidents are now being played out in the media, but yes. It’s disappointing for Australia to have conducted themselves in the manner in which they did. Especially so, since the establishment strived to put the sandpaper incident behind them and move forwards to a new era.

However, let's not forget that historically, England are not exactly straight laced. We've had ball tampering episodes and only last year, Butler and Stokes were in the spot light and fined for poor sportsmanship.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #307 on: January 13, 2021, 04:56:40 PM »
If you actually wanted to remove someone’s guard, wouldn’t you have to scratch the pitch horizontally (along the direction of the crease) to cross it off?
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #308 on: January 13, 2021, 05:22:53 PM »
Quote from: brokenbat on January 13, 2021, 04:56:40 PM
If you actually wanted to remove someone’s guard, wouldn’t you have to scratch the pitch horizontally (along the direction of the crease) to cross it off?

There's a limit to what you can get away with I would think !  :) it's not sandpaper gate but Smith has absolutely no business interfering with an opposition batsmans guard.

Whether he was 'shadow batting' or doing it deliberately he was in an area he should not of been in.

As others have pointed out, the Aussies have previous for blatantly lying about what they are doing during a match.

We..England...have had our run ins with India but I can't recall another game I want India to win more than this next test.

Overall they have played the better cricket away from home-shame they have so many injuries for the last game.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #309 on: January 15, 2021, 05:53:57 AM »
I know India are struggling with injuries, but Labuschagne is so, so good. What a talent he is, averaging 60 and with 5 hundreds in what, 18 tests? Impressive stats.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #310 on: January 15, 2021, 06:01:54 AM »
Aussies 200-5 against a India A bowling line up, Wade throws it away again.

Going to need captain Paine to get some runs, probably his best chance to get a test match 100
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #311 on: January 15, 2021, 09:44:18 AM »
Pitch looks like it is going to get tougher to bat on. India have let Aus off the hook a bit with Rahane dropping Labuschagne on 37.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #312 on: January 15, 2021, 10:20:58 AM »
Quote from: billyb on January 15, 2021, 05:53:57 AM
I know India are struggling with injuries, but Labuschagne is so, so good. What a talent he is, averaging 60 and with 5 hundreds in what, 18 tests? Impressive stats.

I love how much he loves cricket as well. Refreshing to see an Aussie cricketer who so openly just loves playing the game.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #313 on: January 15, 2021, 03:17:56 PM »
Labuschange is a great batsman and superstar in the making, but in this series, he has been called the most lucky cricketer by the commentators with close to 10 drops I think. Ind have only themselves to blame dropping someone of his calibre so many times.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #314 on: January 15, 2021, 04:05:55 PM »
Quote from: adb club cricketer on January 15, 2021, 03:17:56 PM
Labuschange is a great batsman and superstar in the making, but in this series, he has been called the most lucky cricketer by the commentators with close to 10 drops I think. Ind have only themselves to blame dropping someone of his calibre so many times.
OF course. Cant blame the batsman if the opposition drops catches.
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