Topic: SA vs Eng series (Read 12155 times)

ppccopener · « **Reply #60 on:** December 01, 2020, 08:54:10 PM »

Quote from: Manormanic on December 01, 2020, 08:35:50 PM

I'm assuming he will be the spare part in India. Root and either Ali or Crane for him and Tom Curran.

Tough call he's been in the team for a while with good results. Don't generally like the horses for courses selection but in the shortest form of the game and presuming the wickets are what we expect....everyone needs a way to deal with spin.

An interesting, well to me anyway,point is during the WC held in England the ICC oversaw preparation of our pitches so Asian teams were not disadvantaged and the game would be more even-no home advantage.

T20 WC is obviously overseen by ICC again....is there the same instruction but now in reverse-so home advantage for India/Pakistan/Bangladesh etc does not count so much?. I have my doubts this will happen or even if it's possible to change the playing surfaces for one tournament.

Manormanic · « **Reply #61 on:** December 02, 2020, 06:25:59 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on December 01, 2020, 08:54:10 PM

Tough call he's been in the team for a while with good results. Don't generally like the horses for courses selection but in the shortest form of the game and presuming the wickets are what we expect....everyone needs a way to deal with spin.

I'm not sure it's that harsh really, he hasn't been in great form for a while now and I'm sure we would all agree he has the fewest dimensions to his game of any of our top six options. In ODIs, his struggles to get going against spin aren't too much of an issue - he can burn overs 1 and 3 and still have catch up time, but in T20 he gets antsy after a few dots. Add to that, golden balls doesn't have the same smarts as Jonny so does nothing to take the pressure off him.

csnew · « **Reply #62 on:** December 04, 2020, 10:48:05 AM »

Odi postponed to Sunday due to covid

SurreySam · « **Reply #63 on:** December 06, 2020, 10:18:19 AM »

Match abandoned due to 2 positive COVID19 tests being returned by two England touring party members.

Kulli · « **Reply #64 on:** December 06, 2020, 10:28:42 AM »

Hotel staff this time wasn�t it?

Jimbo · « **Reply #65 on:** December 06, 2020, 11:18:42 AM »

Quote from: Kulli on December 06, 2020, 10:28:42 AM

Hotel staff this time wasn�t it?

Contrasting stories from a couple of places, most upto date is hotel staff I think.

SurreySam · « **Reply #66 on:** December 06, 2020, 11:42:37 AM »

I think both are correct. Two hotel staff tested positive leading to the teams having an extra test Saturday night, two unconfirmed positive results were then returned by English party members.

six and out · « **Reply #67 on:** December 06, 2020, 11:56:17 AM »

Who ever it was, the SA bio-secure bubble has been an absolute shambles really.

SD · « **Reply #68 on:** December 06, 2020, 01:05:09 PM »

Quote from: six and out on December 06, 2020, 11:56:17 AM

Who ever it was, the SA bio-secure bubble has been an absolute shambles really.

This has to be the concern for any way series that we have planned for the foreseeable future. I have no doubt that life must have been fairly difficult this summer for those in the bubble in England, particularly those who aren't taking home the same sort of money as the players. But is was necessary to allow international cricket to resume in England. When touring, you have to be able to trust the host nation to take simairly robust measures

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #69 on:** December 06, 2020, 01:55:12 PM »

Quote from: SD on December 06, 2020, 01:05:09 PM

This has to be the concern for any way series that we have planned for the foreseeable future. I have no doubt that life must have been fairly difficult this summer for those in the bubble in England, particularly those who aren't taking home the same sort of money as the players. But is was necessary to allow international cricket to resume in England. When touring, you have to be able to trust the host nation to take simairly robust measures

This..

Away tours need to be much better. I�m sure the professional well paid pros want their freedom to roam but they are paid handsomely so spending a few months while we have Covid seems a small price to pay for a well paid career.

Hotel staff able to leave (or anyone really) makes a mockery of a bubble. But like the UK�s �lockdown� really.. absolute joke really

ppccopener · « **Reply #70 on:** December 06, 2020, 03:15:07 PM »

Quote from: SD on December 06, 2020, 01:05:09 PM

This has to be the concern for any way series that we have planned for the foreseeable future. I have no doubt that life must have been fairly difficult this summer for those in the bubble in England, particularly those who aren't taking home the same sort of money as the players. But is was necessary to allow international cricket to resume in England. When touring, you have to be able to trust the host nation to take simairly robust measures

Yes totally, dont know about anyone else but I'm expecting this tour to be called off pretty soon and the players come home.

Over here even those on here who dislike the ECB would have to say it was done very strictly and a substantial amount of money was spent ensuring safety of the players...there was one breach which was rectified pretty quick so it could continue.

Morgan has been quoted as saying these bubbles are not sustainable and regardless how much these blokes are paid its not going to work long term.

the problem with this tour is if its abandoned it could have repercussions for future tours this winter to SL and India..

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #71 on:** December 06, 2020, 08:10:55 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on December 06, 2020, 03:15:07 PM

Yes totally, dont know about anyone else but I'm expecting this tour to be called off pretty soon and the players come home.

Over here even those on here who dislike the ECB would have to say it was done very strictly and a substantial amount of money was spent ensuring safety of the players...there was one breach which was rectified pretty quick so it could continue.

Morgan has been quoted as saying these bubbles are not sustainable and regardless how much these blokes are paid its not going to work long term.

the problem with this tour is if its abandoned it could have repercussions for future tours this winter to SL and India..

ECB did well, can�t fault them really.

Bubbles are possible for another 12-24 months but players need to choose to take time off.. aka, not go from England duty, to county duty, to BBL to IPL Etc Etc

nivaga · « **Reply #72 on:** December 06, 2020, 08:49:00 PM »

But your bubble is only ever going to be as good as the starting point and if I recall correctly one of the team had tested positive on arrival in SA?

With this virus lots off people end up being asymptomatic and tests can give false negatives, apparently especially if asymptomatic ... so it's well possible there are other players who have had it inside the bible and flown under the radar as well.

Assuming this may be the case, then the question to be asked must surely be "so what"?

IMHO keep doing your best to pretext and keep on playing because the data informing decisions is likely imperfect anyway!

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #73 on:** December 06, 2020, 09:07:06 PM »

Quote from: nivaga on December 06, 2020, 08:49:00 PM

But your bubble is only ever going to be as good as the starting point and if I recall correctly one of the team had tested positive on arrival in SA?

With this virus lots off people end up being asymptomatic and tests can give false negatives, apparently especially if asymptomatic ... so it's well possible there are other players who have had it inside the bible and flown under the radar as well.

Assuming this may be the case, then the question to be asked must surely be "so what"?

IMHO keep doing your best to pretext and keep on playing because the data informing decisions is likely imperfect anyway!

Games can be played at other times though, it�s not worth the risk. 12-24 months is a short time really

csnew · « **Reply #74 on:** December 06, 2020, 09:19:41 PM »

Least both sides have done better than Pak who arrived in NZ with covid positive players - then proceeded to flaunt covid quarantine and head to restaurants. Very lucky they weren�t kicked out of NZ

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