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England v Sri lanka
« on: December 11, 2020, 10:15:23 AM »

Squad announced this morning. They havnt pulled Bairstow from the big bash to sit on the sidelines,he's going to play in Popes position.
I would of liked to see Malan have another chance now he has more international experience, but if it's not Malan then Lawrence was in the squad last summer, clearly highly though of, did he deserve a chance instead?

Looks like Broad and Anderson will go with Archer rested, I would take one not both in rotation, spinners will bowl the bulk  of the overs.

Moeen,Leach,Bess and maybe Rashid to make 4 spin options?
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2020, 10:19:27 AM »

What id like to see:

Burns
Sibley
Crawley
Root
Stokes
Foakes
Moeen
Rashid
Leach
Broad
Anderson

What I think we will see:

Burns
Sibley
Crawley
Root
Stokes
Bairstow
Buttler
Ali
Leach
Broad
Anderson
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2020, 10:27:51 AM »

Not convinced Broad and Anderson would play in the final 11 but think you have called that right with both teams.

Butler is the better batsman over Bairstow, don't think Butler playing in Popes position with Foakes in the side keeping weakens us at all. We need the best keeper IMO.

That won't happen thou I'm pretty sure.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2020, 10:30:59 AM »

Would liked to have seen Lawrence given a go, far more potential long term than Bairstow.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2020, 11:15:21 AM »

Stokes is out of the tour so you would expect Woakes if he wasn’t in already to play I think
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2020, 11:16:25 AM »

Bairstow playing red ball.. laughable really .

Foakes should be there as the best keeper and has been badly treated for a while now.
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2020, 11:51:00 AM »

Bairstow playing red ball.. laughable really .

Foakes should be there as the best keeper and has been badly treated for a while now.

Foakes deserved a proper run in the side after that last SL tour. Quality keeper, no slouch with the bat and some of the catches and stumpings he pulls off are match winners. Even if he averages 25, if he takes all these chances Buttler and Bairstow miss then I reckon he's well worth his spot.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2020, 12:17:19 PM »

wow Dan Lawrence makes the squad too.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2020, 12:30:46 PM »

Burns isn't available due to being on maternity leave...

Bairstow waltzing back into the side disappoints me so much even if it's the 'he's a keeper' nonsense. As for the rest of the batting I guess we'll see Sibley and Crawley opening and everyone moving up one. Still think Foakes should be keeping, but I won't be surprised to see Buttler get found out in those conditions.

In an ideal world both Leach and Bess play in tandem, but they will inevitably go with Moeen on the 'bat a bit' basis, despite having a rather woeful run of it. Not sure there's a place for both Anderson and Broad in those conditions either, if I had my way it'd be Broad who'd worked a hell of a lot on his cutters.

Jonny Bairstow in the test squad again, though. End me.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2020, 12:38:07 PM »

I do so enjoy the particular bile that the denizens of this forum reserve for Bairstow  (whilst simultaneously foaming at the mouth at the thought of Buttler)!

Though on this occasion, I am a little baffled at how they are expecting the side to line up - they have 6 seamers in a party of 16 but will only need two for the tests, so in essence it may boil down to Foakes/Bairstow/Lawrence for two spots.  Surely Bracey would have been a better bet as, you know, someone who has experience opening the batting....and I would love to have seen Broad or Anderson left at home and Virdi taken because as a wicket taking spinner, he's our best long term bet.

As is, I suspect we'll get something underwhelming like:

Crawley
Sibley
Bairstow
Root
Lawrence
Buttler
Ali
Curran
Bess
Leach
Wood/Stone
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2020, 12:39:49 PM »

Bairstow waltzing back into the side disappoints me so much even if it's the 'he's a keeper' nonsense.

The guy has test centuries in Asia and Australia.  Its not like we have a huge stack of experienced options who can make those kind of claims, so he has hardly waltzed back in.
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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2020, 12:47:54 PM »

The guy has test centuries in Asia and Australia.  Its not like we have a huge stack of experienced options who can make those kind of claims, so he has hardly waltzed back in.

Burns, stokes and Pope all missing this tour. Whilst I would rather us play Foakes and Butler in Popes spot you can understand the selectors thinking by picking him. Don’t agree with it but it’s coverage in the positions.
I think Bairstow could well bat 3 and will definitely play.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2020, 12:55:05 PM »

With no Burns, Stokes or Pope it's going to be quite a changed England batting line up.

TBH as much as I don't like England going back to Bairstow considering he's played no red ball, what choice do they have, and his record against spin is good.

The question will be where is he going to bat. Crawley will now open, so number 3 if free, but so is 5 with no Stokes or Pope.

Picking Lawrence would make things interesting as it would give another spin option.
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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2020, 12:55:30 PM »

Burns, stokes and Pope all missing this tour. Whilst I would rather us play Foakes and Butler in Popes spot you can understand the selectors thinking by picking him. Don’t agree with it but it’s coverage in the positions.
I think Bairstow could well bat 3 and will definitely play.

I'd rather they sacked Buttler off entirely but hey, we can't always get what we want :)

Seriously, its a sensible horses/courses type selection.  It will only get interesting if he cracks a rage hundred or two early doors - he has form in that regard - and makes himself a strong candidate for India when everyone is back!

Occured to me after my last post, possibly one other person who might be a little cheesed off is Joe Denly - recent top order experience and capable of bowling a few decent overs of spin. 
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2020, 12:57:08 PM »

The question will be where is he going to bat. Crawley will now open, so number 3 if free, but so is 5 with no Stokes or Pope.

Picking Lawrence would make things interesting as it would give another spin option.

There are lots of permutations - I suspect three, but they could just as easily leave Crawley in situ and push him up to open, or use Ali - also previously good against spin - in one of those roles.
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