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Jimbo

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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #345 on: January 22, 2021, 12:51:16 PM »
Quote from: Rez on January 22, 2021, 12:13:59 PM
Yeah, it's got to come down to Root to protect his man hasn't it. Woody the type of bowler who will always want to give you another one if you keep chucking him the ball. Always great to see him giving his all but surely shorter burst would be better.

Bit of a worry that Root hasn't learned a lesson from the handling of Archer. Wood and Stone both have a history of injury issues and both will, presumably, be important members of the next Ashes squad.
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« Reply #346 on: January 22, 2021, 01:47:36 PM »
I'm unconvinced Archer will have a long test career as the one day format is where the money is, and Root may or may not of handled him badly before but you don't want to see our fastest bowler bowling long spells in these conditions.

So there maybe something in Roots handling of him, I don't think he is a good captain or should be captain, but there are improvements over the last couple of years.

The senior players have a role too, I see nothing wrong wi a frank exchange of words on the field, they are at work after all.

Don't want to see this repeated tommorow, otherwise someone needs to have a word with him.

90 mph fast bowlers havnt  come along that often since I've been watching England.
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« Reply #347 on: January 22, 2021, 01:59:00 PM »
Quote from: ppccopener on January 22, 2021, 01:47:36 PM

90 mph fast bowlers havnt  come along that often since I've been watching England.

No.  Yet right now we have potentially got six!
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #348 on: January 22, 2021, 02:13:23 PM »
Quote from: Manormanic on January 22, 2021, 01:59:00 PM
No.  Yet right now we have potentially got six!

Who are the six?

I’ve got Archer, Wood, Stone and struggling to think of any others? But then I don’t follow a huge amount of CC
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #349 on: January 22, 2021, 02:15:15 PM »
Quote from: ppccopener on January 22, 2021, 01:47:36 PM
I'm unconvinced Archer will have a long test career as the one day format is where the money is, and Root may or may not of handled him badly before but you don't want to see our fastest bowler bowling long spells in these conditions.

Don't know if the cash will be a stumbling block for Jofra, he'll be in demand as a white ball cricketer barring some huge loss of form and the ECB have made some pretty serious efforts to facilitate their star players being able to play franchise cricket.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #350 on: January 22, 2021, 02:17:46 PM »
Quote from: LEACHY48 on January 22, 2021, 02:13:23 PM
Who are the six?

I’ve got Archer, Wood, Stone and struggling to think of any others? But then I don’t follow a huge amount of CC

Jamie Overton?

Stokes can get there too
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #351 on: January 22, 2021, 02:28:24 PM »
Quote from: Manormanic on January 22, 2021, 01:59:00 PM
No.  Yet right now we have potentially got six!

Six!! Are you sure  :)

Archer wood stone.... you thinking of the Lancashire Asian lad Mahmoud I think..he might make 4
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #352 on: January 22, 2021, 02:35:28 PM »
Not in the squads yet but Tom Helm, George Garton and Josh Tongue have all clocked 90+mph in the county championship IIRC.
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« Reply #353 on: January 22, 2021, 03:37:06 PM »
My six were Archer, Wood, Stone, Jamie Overton, Saqib Mahmood and Brydon Carse, because I was limiting the field to those who were within England and Lions squads in the last 12 months.  Tom Helm and Tom Barber in the County game can get close - I don't think Garton is quite there since his injury though he is probably still around 85 which with the angle and his improved batting make him a potential in the next couple of years (you could say the same, apart from the angle, about Matt Fisher too).  I have to say I have never seen Josh Tongue bowl, though Jimbo is right he has been spoken of as "a bit quick"...
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #354 on: January 22, 2021, 03:48:48 PM »
Quote from: ppccopener on January 22, 2021, 02:28:24 PM
Six!! Are you sure  :)

Archer wood stone.... you thinking of the Lancashire Asian lad Mahmoud I think..he might make 4

I think hes probably classed as English considering he was born in and plays for England
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #355 on: January 22, 2021, 04:42:11 PM »
Quote from: ppccopener on January 22, 2021, 02:28:24 PM
Six!! Are you sure  :)

Archer wood stone.... you thinking of the Lancashire Asian lad Mahmoud I think..he might make 4

There you go, fixed it for you.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #356 on: January 22, 2021, 04:46:55 PM »
Quote from: alba caerulea on January 22, 2021, 03:48:48 PM
I think hes probably classed as English considering he was born in and plays for England

Yes absolutely, no mis-description was intended
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #357 on: January 22, 2021, 04:52:09 PM »
Quote from: jamesisapayne on January 22, 2021, 04:42:11 PM
There you go, fixed it for you.

 :) Have to say I don’t know who Carse is or that one of the Overton brothers was up that quick.
Helm and Garton both have had back issues I think but are pretty quick.

I think sometimes there is a distinction with guys who can bowl consistently at 90mph and those that have hit it during certain games.

One thing I do know, in the test area it is still a precious commodity and needs looking after.

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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #358 on: January 22, 2021, 05:00:52 PM »
I didn't think Brydon Carse was that sharp, thought he was more of a Woakes type player who could bowl with decent pace and a bit of movement plus being a useful bat rather than clocking 90mph+. Interesting if he's got that extra bit of pace as he sounds like a pretty decent bat too.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #359 on: January 22, 2021, 07:53:54 PM »
Brydon Carse was the quickest I saw during the 2019 season.. I mentioned it on here.
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