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Re: Tim Paine using Stretton Fox
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2021, 01:21:00 AM »

I know I’ve posted this before, but for everyone having issues with moulding the pads, you need to get SUPER aggressive with rolling up the pads after you heat them. Roll them up like a yoga mat. It becomes very easy after that. Here’s the pic I’ve posted before to illustrate how aggressive you need to get: https://www.instagram.com/p/CDuDYkfh67a/?igshid=ztquhzp134nm
It looks like the elbow guard, but it’s actually the outer thigh !

I think the issue is not that we cannot shape it, the issue is that it does not hold the shape  for a long time unless you go all nuclear nadal on it and  keep it rolled up rather aggressively, which , after a certain point of time  starts to look more or less like a chore . Once I'm done with my innings, i would like to just let the equipment dry, strap it up and pack in my kitbag . I really like my  thigh pads, but after a  certain point of time, I'm left guessing if using my $20 SG thigh pads is better than using a $100 stretton fox . The sole reason i shifted to Stretton fox was because it was moldable and provided better fit  but if  i have to refit it  after every game then its beats the purpose  as per me .
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Re: Tim Paine using Stretton Fox
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2021, 11:21:12 AM »

Do you guys not find all this stuff restricts your movement? My batting average doubled the season I dumped everything except pads, gloves and box and I've never looked back since. Felt so much sharper at the crease.

I guess the necessity of a thigh guard purely depends on the level of cricket one plays. If you are playing in the higher leagues (Div 1/2 in most leagues and higher) then not wearing a thigh guard would be very risky. If you are playing in the lower leagues, then the thigh guards are only useful against beamers.
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« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2021, 03:42:59 PM »

I guess the necessity of a thigh guard purely depends on the level of cricket one plays. If you are playing in the higher leagues (Div 1/2 in most leagues and higher) then not wearing a thigh guard would be very risky. If you are playing in the lower leagues, then the thigh guards are only useful against beamers.

Lower leagues on crap pitches, I like the extra protection. Plus as you've said, beamers from lower standard bowlers.
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Re: Tim Paine using Stretton Fox
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2021, 10:32:59 AM »

And now Marnus using a full pair not just the straps

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CJp-HRPpuU2/?igshid=dj9buron0yfm
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« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2021, 11:15:27 AM »

I guess the necessity of a thigh guard purely depends on the level of cricket one plays. If you are playing in the higher leagues (Div 1/2 in most leagues and higher) then not wearing a thigh guard would be very risky. If you are playing in the lower leagues, then the thigh guards are only useful against beamers.

Yes - if you're playing against 70-80mph bowlers on fast bouncy tracks, its probably necessary.

This is less than 10% of all amateur cricket though. Most amateur cricketers playing against 50-60mph "pace" bowlers on puddings where a bouncer reaches them at 40mph if at all, don't even really need a helmet, let alone thigh guard, chest guard, arm guard, lol.
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« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2021, 11:39:47 AM »

Yes - if you're playing against 70-80mph bowlers on fast bouncy tracks, its probably necessary.

This is less than 10% of all amateur cricket though. Most amateur cricketers playing against 50-60mph "pace" bowlers on puddings where a bouncer reaches them at 40mph if at all, don't even really need a helmet, let alone thigh guard, chest guard, arm guard, lol.

What level of pads and gloves do you use @SLA ? The very best or not bothered? Wondered if you’ve ever had an injury caused by this
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« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2021, 12:04:26 PM »

What level of pads and gloves do you use @SLA ? The very best or not bothered? Wondered if you’ve ever had an injury caused by this

I currently have some newish b3 gloves and some gm pads that I bought for 40 quid in 2010.

I had to throw away my old gn gloves as all the holes had joined together and my thumb and fingers were just sticking out. I think I've owned 3 pairs of gloves and 3 pairs of pads in the last 30 years?

Never had a leg injury, can't really feel it when the ball hits the pads at all. I see no reason why my current pads won't last another 10 years.

I haven't had a hand injury batting since the 90s when I broke my finger batting in a 1st div game on a lethal wet astro pitch.

I did break my thumb this summer, but that was foolishly agreeing to keep wicket because noone else could do it. I missed a week of cricket because of that.
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« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2021, 12:37:10 PM »

I currently have some newish b3 gloves and some gm pads that I bought for 40 quid in 2010.

I had to throw away my old gn gloves as all the holes had joined together and my thumb and fingers were just sticking out. I think I've owned 3 pairs of gloves and 3 pairs of pads in the last 30 years?

Never had a leg injury, can't really feel it when the ball hits the pads at all. I see no reason why my current pads won't last another 10 years.

I haven't had a hand injury batting since the 90s when I broke my finger batting in a 1st div game on a lethal wet astro pitch.

I did break my thumb this summer, but that was foolishly agreeing to keep wicket because noone else could do it. I missed a week of cricket because of that.

Would you mind posting a pic of the kit you’re using? Would be good to see the actual condition of your kit and how you carry on using it.

Also, what about bats? Do you just use them forever?
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« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2021, 01:51:58 PM »

Would you mind posting a pic of the kit you’re using? Would be good to see the actual condition of your kit and how you carry on using it.

Also, what about bats? Do you just use them forever?

I use them until they break, which could be anything between a few months and 10 years.

I've tried various strategies, from expensive bats to cheap bats to not even owning a bat and just using one out of the club kit bag.

The pingiest bat I ever owned cost me £50 from sports direct as an emergency replacement, I bought it on the Friday and scored a ton with it on the Saturday. It lasted a month before splitting.

I've also had top of the range bats that were complete planks, stuff I've bought from ebay that broke immediately, and mid-range bats that lasted a decade.


I've settled on buying relatively expensive but not top of the range bats from B3. This seems to work well - reasonably durable (4 years in, no cracks yet) and also very good performance.




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« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2021, 02:27:29 PM »

Do you guys not find all this stuff restricts your movement? My batting average doubled the season I dumped everything except pads, gloves and box and I've never looked back since. Felt so much sharper at the crease.

It is a balance.  If I get hit on an uncovered part of my leg, I get swelling which restricts my movement for the rest of the innings, but any padding that is too unwieldy or uncomfortable inhibits natural movement and becomes a distraction.

The Aero P2s are the best I have come across.  They stay perfectly in place with no movement at all whilst playing any shot or running.  They also move naturally to my body so I really don't notice wearing them.  Also, they are shaped so they don't come into contact with my box (this is one of the main issue I have had with the shape of the Stretton inner thigh guard.

The only issue that I have with the Aeros is that on my waist measurement, the pads are not long enough to cover my upper legs (I have tried the next size up but the waist is then too big), leaving an uncovered section as can be seen from the picture below.



I tried the Strettons to see if I could solve this issue but have stuck with the P2s.   
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« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2021, 03:27:39 PM »

Yes - if you're playing against 70-80mph bowlers on fast bouncy tracks, its probably necessary.

This is less than 10% of all amateur cricket though. Most amateur cricketers playing against 50-60mph "pace" bowlers on puddings where a bouncer reaches them at 40mph if at all, don't even really need a helmet, let alone thigh guard, chest guard, arm guard, lol.
This might be correct , but IMO,  the idea of wearing protection is to mitigate the  possibility of an Injury. Even at 40 Mph, if you get hit on your head , or your hip bone, it's gonna hurt for some time . And  a ball hitting on thigh pad gives you a chance to get  some runs too .
I play at a pretty low level now  where bowlers  are mostly in the 50 -70 MPH region and  wear all the necessary protection while batting and  was once was  hit on my helmet by  a ball that rose sharply from  short of length  of a bowler who was probably bowling around 50- 60 mph. Felt fine after  sitting for a few minutes and came back to bat . It was only the second day that I had concussion symptoms . Had to take the day off from office . Without a helmet that could had been a dangerous situation .
There are many in my team who play without thigh pads and time and again I have seen them getting hit on their hip joint and being unable to continue their innings . One guy lost his tooth while trying to sweep a spinner without helmet on .This prompted our league to make helmets mandatory.
Everyone has their own preferences, but i think it's better to be wearing protective equipment  which ever level a person is playing cricket at.

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« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2021, 03:36:44 PM »

This might be correct , but IMO,  the idea of wearing protection is to mitigate the  possibility of an Injury. Even at 40 Mph, if you get hit on your head , or your hip bone, it's gonna hurt for some time . And  a ball hitting on thigh pad gives you a chance to get  some runs too .
I play at a pretty low level now  where bowlers  are mostly in the 50 -70 MPH region and  wear all the necessary protection while batting and  was once was  hit on my helmet by  a ball that rose sharply from  short of length  of a bowler who was probably bowling around 50- 60 mph. Felt fine after  sitting for a few minutes and came back to bat . It was only the second day that I had concussion symptoms . Had to take the day off from office . Without a helmet that could had been a dangerous situation .
There are many in my team who play without thigh pads and time and again I have seen them getting hit on their hip joint and being unable to continue their innings . One guy lost his tooth while trying to sweep a spinner without helmet on .This prompted our league to make helmets mandatory.
Everyone has their own preferences, but i think it's better to be wearing protective equipment  which ever level a person is playing cricket at.


Some of the most nasty facial injuries I have seen have been from batsmen top edging sweeps  into their face.
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« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2021, 03:46:38 PM »

This might be correct , but IMO,  the idea of wearing protection is to mitigate the  possibility of an Injury. Even at 40 Mph, if you get hit on your head , or your hip bone, it's gonna hurt for some time . And  a ball hitting on thigh pad gives you a chance to get  some runs too .
I play at a pretty low level now  where bowlers  are mostly in the 50 -70 MPH region and  wear all the necessary protection while batting and  was once was  hit on my helmet by  a ball that rose sharply from  short of length  of a bowler who was probably bowling around 50- 60 mph. Felt fine after  sitting for a few minutes and came back to bat . It was only the second day that I had concussion symptoms . Had to take the day off from office . Without a helmet that could had been a dangerous situation .
There are many in my team who play without thigh pads and time and again I have seen them getting hit on their hip joint and being unable to continue their innings . One guy lost his tooth while trying to sweep a spinner without helmet on .This prompted our league to make helmets mandatory.
Everyone has their own preferences, but i think it's better to be wearing protective equipment  which ever level a person is playing cricket at.

Live and let live. Hardly anyone wears helmets and thigh guards at the mid-tier level of cricket I play, and in 25 years of league cricket, the only batsmen I've seen retired hurt have been non-strikers hit by a straight drive. If you feel more comfortable wearing all this stuff, go for it, but it does cricket no favours to exaggerate the absolutely minimal threat you face as an amateur level batsman - bowlers, umpires and close fielders are in a lot more danger in my experience. Cricket's already one of the safest sports there is, if you made protective gear compulsory a lot of people would just go and do something else instead.

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Re: Tim Paine using Stretton Fox
« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2021, 03:51:51 PM »

There are many in my team who play without thigh pads and time and again I have seen them getting hit on their hip joint and being unable to continue their innings . One guy lost his tooth while trying to sweep a spinner without helmet on .This prompted our league to make helmets mandatory.

You've conflated two different positions: not wearing thigh pads vs not wearing helmets are two different things. Initial statement was about thigh pads.

If you are playing without a helmet, you need psychiatric help.

Thigh pads are a different story. It depends on your batting style and technique. I tend to edge deliveries to my lower inside (right leg) thigh and inner pad doesn't cover it. It always stung. Front thigh has never been an issue - rarely (knock on wood) get hit there. So, I don't wear thigh pads. They also get very hot, I just don't like the feeling.

Regarding beamers, last one was aimed at my helmet so not sure how a thigh pad would help with that.  :D
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Re: Tim Paine using Stretton Fox
« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2021, 03:52:54 PM »


Some of the most nasty facial injuries I have seen have been from batsmen top edging sweeps  into their face.

My buddy did that, he took off his helmet on a low matting pitch. Blood was everywhere.
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