Topic: ENG vs IND series (Read 170067 times)

ppccopener · « **Reply #1530 on:** March 05, 2021, 11:03:54 AM »

Stokes back on this is a heroic effort he was cooked about an hour ago

csnew · « **Reply #1531 on:** March 05, 2021, 11:10:49 AM »

Bess serving up more full tosses. Village stuff

gpun22 · « **Reply #1532 on:** March 05, 2021, 11:16:12 AM »

Quote from: SouthpawMark on March 05, 2021, 09:14:01 AM

There�s no way Bess should be playing this match. Confidence is shot to pieces.

If anything, I blame the team management. The moment Bess got dropped after the 2nd test, his confidence must have hit a bottom low.
He had a decent performance in the 1st test, was among the wickets in the first innings with the big scalp of Kohli. His confidence would have been running high especially with that Kohli wicket.
But, the moment u get dropped after a decent performance, u r doing nothing but shattering the confidence of a young bowler.
The spin duo of bess and leach was in my team the whole series and these two should have played the whole series in these sub continent condtions.

gpun22 · « **Reply #1533 on:** March 05, 2021, 11:17:40 AM »

* after the 1st test

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #1534 on:** March 05, 2021, 11:29:25 AM »

Quote from: Jimbo on March 05, 2021, 10:52:30 AM

Even the most dedicated England fan had to enjoy that knock from Pant, outrageous batting.

Can't say I didn't enjoy watching him grind England into the dirt there given it's not a road. Very different watching something like that when it's not a road. You know it's sheer talent. Take a bow son.

England just aren't very good, over hyped when they beat a few minnows and then come crashing down when it counts

rickjames · « **Reply #1535 on:** March 05, 2021, 11:34:43 AM »

Two good sessions followed by a really poor one, just highlights how poor we were with the bat

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #1536 on:** March 05, 2021, 11:40:18 AM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on March 05, 2021, 11:29:25 AM

Can't say I didn't enjoy watching him grind England into the dirt there given it's not a road. Very different watching something like that when it's not a road. You know it's sheer talent. Take a bow son.

England just aren't very good, over hyped when they beat a few minnows and then come crashing down when it counts

England aren't very good... In these conditions

Why with you is it always one team is rubbish? Rather than a team has played well

I agree England havnt had a good series but that doesn't make them a bad team

ppccopener · « **Reply #1537 on:** March 05, 2021, 11:46:28 AM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on March 05, 2021, 11:29:25 AM

Can't say I didn't enjoy watching him grind England into the dirt there given it's not a road. Very different watching something like that when it's not a road. You know it's sheer talent. Take a bow son.

England just aren't very good, over hyped when they beat a few minnows and then come crashing down when it counts

Can�t agree with this at all. India are strong at home and we were in this game until about an hour ago.
Very few people on this forum say England are brilliant even us die hard fans are not that one eyed

Mtown Don · « **Reply #1538 on:** March 05, 2021, 11:51:57 AM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on March 05, 2021, 11:29:25 AM

Can't say I didn't enjoy watching him grind England into the dirt there given it's not a road. Very different watching something like that when it's not a road. You know it's sheer talent. Take a bow son.

England just aren't very good, over hyped when they beat a few minnows and then come crashing down when it counts

Hilariously off brand, if you are looking for a �biffer� who just hits through the line in Test cricket it�s Pant (not saying he doesn�t execute it well).

As for not very good, I don�t even disagree but if that Bess ball is a few millimetres lower (no way the umpire gave it not out on height either) then they�re going in to bat with a first innings lead.

ppccopener · « **Reply #1539 on:** March 05, 2021, 12:01:10 PM »

Quote from: gpun22 on March 05, 2021, 11:16:12 AM

If anything, I blame the team management. The moment Bess got dropped after the 2nd test, his confidence must have hit a bottom low.
He had a decent performance in the 1st test, was among the wickets in the first innings with the big scalp of Kohli. His confidence would have been running high especially with that Kohli wicket.
But, the moment u get dropped after a decent performance, u r doing nothing but shattering the confidence of a young bowler.
The spin duo of bess and leach was in my team the whole series and these two should have played the whole series in these sub continent condtions.

Agree totally. We always were going to need two spinners even if there was some help predicted in the daylight match

In my opinion it all starts when England public ally tell Bess to 'go away and get better', whatever he needs to improve keep it behind closed doors.They are basically saying he's unselectable for the next match at least.

Then I guess they presumed Mo would forego his rotation break and stay on with the idea Leach and Mo play together.
Mo said no, rightly he wanted his break after notplaying in Sri Lanka.

From there the seeds of poor management are sown and the team is already up against it in a hard series.

Jimbo · « **Reply #1540 on:** March 05, 2021, 12:07:23 PM »

Only selecting one frontline seam bowler is looking very daft as well. They got the selection wrong last test with one frontline spinner and they've repeated the trick this time. Root is clearly good enough as second spinner to give Leach a break when the pitch is offering something to the quicks.

India have been better but England have been undone by their own poor planning as well. Hopefully Bess gets a chance to go away and hone his craft at first class level because there's clearly a talented player in there.

ppccopener · « **Reply #1541 on:** March 05, 2021, 12:14:34 PM »

I don�t think Root can be your second spinner thou, he can be our third...but we need 2 frontline ones thou on this tour.

And yes we surely needed an extra seamer here instead of a batsman..it can work playing 7 batters but we need 400 plus-something we have not done after the first test.

It was always going to turn big..just a matter of when in the game

six and out · « **Reply #1542 on:** March 05, 2021, 03:17:59 PM »

This sort of selection happens though when you don't trust your batting. You no longer pick your team based on a simple formula, your head starts thinking about the needs for runs first and foremost even before thinking about anything else.

If the top 5/6 are batting well then we wouldn't even consider playing an extra batter and then Jofra or Stone get picked etc.... To need a specialist batter at 7 is actually pretty desperate measures when you think about it

golders · « **Reply #1543 on:** March 05, 2021, 03:19:53 PM »

Quote from: thedon on March 05, 2021, 10:03:40 AM

Stokes looks fried!

Yep. Maybe Bess could bowl some dibbly dobblers instead of filthy off spin. Options are endless for Root's outside the box thinking.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #1544 on:** March 05, 2021, 03:23:15 PM »

I'd have been totally against the idea in principle, but iit is worth noting that the seventh batsman scored a sizeable chunk of our runs. (Ironically, there were many forumites who were looking forward to seeing his bowling on this tour!)

Couldn't it be that the England team is actually somewhere between 'embarrassment of riches' brilliant and 'sack the lot of them' crap? And who they select (within reason) doesn't really change this a great deal?

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