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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1470 on: March 04, 2021, 12:36:04 PM »

Swann’s an absolute prat and The Indian commentators are no better.

The likes of cook and Strauss are a borefest. The best of the lot so far has been Ebony Rainford
We are right at the bottom of the barrel then !  :)
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« Reply #1471 on: March 04, 2021, 01:47:14 PM »

Suraj has come out and accused stokes of swearing at him. Slightly ironic virat got involved given he abuses most players himself

its SIRAJ not SURAJ...and he hasnt 'come out and accused Stokes' ... he was asked about the on field scuffle and just said what had happened.
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« Reply #1472 on: March 04, 2021, 01:50:08 PM »

He accuses everyone. In Australia , he accused of crowd of racism (later given clean chit after investigation). Now, stokes . in the future some other accusations.
Accuser no. 1. Lollipop boy, shouldn't be playing cricket if is not tough.

He has every right to raise a concern if he felt he received racist abuse! People have all the sympathy when people of a certain race are abused in football, but if an Indian cricket raises his voice against racist abuse he is not tough enough? Pathetic!
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« Reply #1473 on: March 04, 2021, 02:12:51 PM »

He has every right to raise a concern if he felt he received racist abuse! People have all the sympathy when people of a certain race are abused in football, but if an Indian cricket raises his voice against racist abuse he is not tough enough? Pathetic!

Two separate issues going on here. In Aus, if Siraj even thinks somebody made a racist comment then he has every right to report it and see the process followed through. Not just to stand up for himself but if people get away with racist comments then they'll abuse somebody else before long.

Not so keen on "Stokes swore at me", nothing seems to be mentioned about what he said to Stokes which you'd assume was not "well played Benjamin". Threats and personal abuse don't really belong on the cricket pitch but general swearing I think grown men can handle.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1474 on: March 04, 2021, 02:31:40 PM »

205 is not a bad score.

Lets wait till both sides have batted on the same pitch before passing judgement.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1475 on: March 04, 2021, 02:42:36 PM »

Two separate issues going on here. In Aus, if Siraj even thinks somebody made a racist comment then he has every right to report it and see the process followed through. Not just to stand up for himself but if people get away with racist comments then they'll abuse somebody else before long.

Not so keen on "Stokes swore at me", nothing seems to be mentioned about what he said to Stokes which you'd assume was not "well played Benjamin". Threats and personal abuse don't really belong on the cricket pitch but general swearing I think grown men can handle.

Words get exchanged on the field, Kholi had some with Stokes and  Bairstow which Benji has said were nothing out of the ordinary in a competitive match. If it's not racists it's what happens out there in the heat of battle.

Stokes has also said it's the toughest batting conditions he's faced, as we thought this is mighty hard.

England were poor today I thought, pitch was fairly standard for a first day, bit of spin but not much and something for the seamers early on.

I'm gonna forgive Lawrence for a brain fade on one shot he played well and Pope was unlucky after showing some application.

We are behind again I think 100 short but at least there was something to cling on too.

I've said this before but I don't generally think 7 batsmen is the way to win a test but Lawrence regardless of where he bats for Essex may have more of a chance in the middle order.

And yes I know it's packed already....not everyone an bat 5, it's an issue we have had for a while now.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1476 on: March 04, 2021, 02:45:20 PM »

I tried looking up the Siraj-Stokes-Kohli spat but didn't find much except for Siraj's account of what happened. It could've been something he had had said earlier and Stokes decided to even the score.

As much as I despise sledging, I don't see how people can keep their mouths shut in high pressure environments like Test cricket. Let the ball or bat do the talking, gents. ;)

Now, I wonder what kind of sledging goes in women's game?
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1477 on: March 04, 2021, 04:00:24 PM »

I don't think 205 is a bad score. Ind haven't batted great either, have a few dead wood batters among themselves plus add that the pitch will deteriorate more in coming days. Plus this pitch is assisting pacers a bit more, so Anderson is always in the game. And then Ind have to bat last, just imagine this pitch if it gets to even day 4. All depends on how Ind 1st innings goes.
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« Reply #1478 on: March 04, 2021, 04:35:37 PM »

I don't think 205 is a bad score. Ind haven't batted great either, have a few dead wood batters among themselves plus add that the pitch will deteriorate more in coming days. Plus this pitch is assisting pacers a bit more, so Anderson is always in the game. And then Ind have to bat last, just imagine this pitch if it gets to even day 4. All depends on how Ind 1st innings goes.

This is a much better pitch. I will be very surprised if India dont score atleast 350 batting first. England seem to be relying too much on their part timers. That doesnt work every time.
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« Reply #1479 on: March 04, 2021, 04:50:19 PM »

2 or 3 quick wickets tomorrow morning and we are right in the game.

Kohli's comments previously about getting into the batsmen just to wind himself up when things are quiet, i think this is a bit over the line but i dont think hes the only one in test cricket doing it. there are certain players who make mistakes when you get under their skin but it seems to be getting more and more personal.
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« Reply #1480 on: March 04, 2021, 06:08:49 PM »

2 or 3 quick wickets tomorrow morning and we are right in the game.

Kohli's comments previously about getting into the batsmen just to wind himself up when things are quiet, i think this is a bit over the line but i dont think hes the only one in test cricket doing it. there are certain players who make mistakes when you get under their skin but it seems to be getting more and more personal.
That hope is good but if England doesn't do so, feel its going to be a long day for England.
Just don't understand the selection from England . On a rank turner from day 1, they go with 3 quicks and on a good sub continent wicket , they go with only three specialist bowlers.
If things don't go as planned part timer root and stokes will also have to do a bulk of bowling. Stokes lately just doesn't bowl enough overs.
Rather than going with 7 bastman on a decent batting wicket, I would have gone with Woakes in place of either Lawrence , pope or bairstow.
woakes is a decent enough batsman late down the order and would have added a lot to the bowling strength along with balance of the side.
England's  selection and pitch reading hasn't been good this series.
 
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1481 on: March 04, 2021, 06:23:56 PM »

Woakes wasn’t available he went home after the third Test
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1482 on: March 04, 2021, 06:27:26 PM »

That hope is good but if England doesn't do so, feel its going to be a long day for England.
Just don't understand the selection from England . On a rank turner from day 1, they go with 3 quicks and on a good sub continent wicket , they go with only three specialist bowlers.
If things don't go as planned part timer root and stokes will also have to do a bulk of bowling. Stokes lately just doesn't bowl enough overs.
Rather than going with 7 bastman on a decent batting wicket, I would have gone with Woakes in place of either Lawrence , pope or bairstow.
woakes is a decent enough batsman late down the order and would have added a lot to the bowling strength along with balance of the side.
England's  selection and pitch reading hasn't been good this series.
 

Can't help but agree, I think we need a magic spell tommorow morning to get back in the game.
Woakes is back home after not playing any games in SL or on this tour,he's good enough to do a job with the ball and contribute with the bat.

The rotation has been necessary we know that, in hindsight it may of been better to miss one tour or the other, not parts of both for some players.
The pitches we have got a bit wrong, but we've handicapped ourselves a bit with Bess missing the last two and Mo back home a couple of weeks ago.

Root has had his hands tied a bit I think, I'm not aware of any of the regular one day players missing from the ODI's that follow the test series.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1483 on: March 04, 2021, 06:31:12 PM »

Woakes wasn’t available he went home after the third Test
Didn't know that. Just read the news, he was sent home for rotation policy. How can you send home a guy who didn't play a single test match.
You are rotating to manage the workload of players but then he hasn't done any work.
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« Reply #1484 on: March 04, 2021, 06:33:14 PM »

Didn't know that. Just read the news, he was sent home for rotation policy. How can you send home a guy who didn't play a single test match.
You are rotating to manage the workload of players but then he hasn't done any work.
I’d guess it’s to help his mental well-being? Must be torture being in that hotel all these weeks considering he never got a single game.
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