Topic: ENG vs IND series (Read 170218 times)

ppccopener · « **Reply #1650 on:** March 07, 2021, 09:13:18 PM »

The only problem Leach had was lack of games, he's def our best bet. Second spinner is a problem but not one I can see causing an issue for ages, we won't play 2 in our summer and at the end of the year maybe Sydney we would need 2 but nothing else comes to mind.

Unless England see better value in making Mo Ali fill that role and not Leach, I expect Ali to just play one day cricket.

To be honest, he's batted everywhere in the order, scored some very very good runs from number 8 but has always been a difficult selection. He's said himself he is a batsman who bowls.

FattusCattus · « **Reply #1651 on:** March 07, 2021, 09:13:35 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on March 07, 2021, 08:58:06 PM

Leach is clearly a superior spinner and looked back to his best this series after a pretty tough time. Would have him pencilled in for every Test going forward.

Whilst I would like to agree (as a fellow lefty myself), I do slightly worry about their grace under pressure (both of them)

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #1652 on:** March 07, 2021, 09:14:59 PM »

Quote from: FattusCattus on March 07, 2021, 09:08:51 PM

It's beginning to look like he is another Wood 'the early years'

Is it? We're writing him off?

ppccopener · « **Reply #1653 on:** March 07, 2021, 09:16:18 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on March 07, 2021, 09:12:53 PM

Nevertheless, I'm predicting Saqib Mahmood won't be a Test great.

We are going to need Wood fit for as many games as he can I reckon, Stone shows promise, and yes it's just promise at the moment.

Action looks strong, he's got pace and in the one game he played was pretty accurate.

FattusCattus · « **Reply #1654 on:** March 07, 2021, 09:16:40 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on March 07, 2021, 09:12:53 PM

Nevertheless, I'm predicting Saqib Mahmood won't be a Test great.

And I'm predicting neither will Archer - flash in the pan.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #1655 on:** March 07, 2021, 09:20:04 PM »

That thing I was saying about being fickle...

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #1656 on:** March 07, 2021, 09:20:44 PM »

Goodnight.

FattusCattus · « **Reply #1657 on:** March 07, 2021, 09:31:42 PM »

Goodnight - and I don't feel fickle, always had my doubts - enjoy your nap.

Jimbo · « **Reply #1658 on:** March 07, 2021, 10:53:50 PM »

Quote from: FattusCattus on March 07, 2021, 09:07:43 PM

Figures early on aren't always an indicator of future test greatness - Trescothick, Flintoff and Vaughan are testament to that.

That's not wrong, just wouldn't have him down as next cab off the rank if Archer doesn't make it in Tests, which IMO he will.

Fast bowling prospects wise I'd probably be looking at Stone or Jamie Overton before Mahmood in red ball cricket. Even Craig Overton sounds like he's added a bit of pace and there's no way he's not generating serious bounce with his height.

Jeff Navarro · « **Reply #1659 on:** March 08, 2021, 01:16:07 AM »

If Archer needs elbow surgery I think he�ll dump red ball cricket. Prior to becoming an England regular, when fit I�ll add, he was reported earning $3m per year from his T20 adventures.
Olly Stone looks the real real hopefully he can stay fit.
Mark Wood is average. If we rely on him in the Ashes we are backing the wrong horse.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #1660 on:** March 08, 2021, 07:16:25 AM »

Archer's heart is in white ball, he appears to have a chronic elbow issue. Can see him fading off into the T20 sunset for the monies. Might as well move on now and get Stone/Wood combo going strong than persist with someone who is so obviously going to chase the IPL ��

Silverwood's comments are totally 100% expected and anyone thinking that white ball isn't the priority for the ECB is plain wrong. However, I do hope he is fired (not likely at all) or feels such guilt, that he resigns.

Even seeing talk of pope or stokes at 3... Jesus.. do we learn nothing about specialists in specialist positions! .. Neither Pope or Stokes are good enough for top order batting! leave them at 5/6 to score runs and find .. you know... an actual top order batsmen.

six and out · « **Reply #1661 on:** March 08, 2021, 07:22:27 AM »

Quote from: Jeff Navarro on March 08, 2021, 01:16:07 AM

If Archer needs elbow surgery I think he�ll dump red ball cricket. Prior to becoming an England regular, when fit I�ll add, he was reported earning $3m per year from his T20 adventures.
Olly Stone looks the real real hopefully he can stay fit.
Mark Wood is average. If we rely on him in the Ashes we are backing the wrong horse.

This regards Archer. The only worry I have with him is fitness. I really think the England management are hiding a bigger issue. And he is definitely needed for the T20 World Cup before the Ashes, so won't have any rest there.

I think early CC will be interesting regards the top order. There are 8/9 games for someone to put their hat in the ring. Or in a negative light the current top order to get nothing on early green seaming tracks and the media to start blowing up!

Leach is our best spinner and Mo is at the IPL until/possibly after the 1st test of the NZ series.

Speaking of that here are some IPL dates with will definitely effect things -

Last group game 23rd May
Playoffs 25th - 28th
Final - 30th

The 1st NZ test starts on 2nd June, so that would suggest that anyone playing in the IPL would be missing the 1st test.

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #1662 on:** March 08, 2021, 07:37:37 AM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on March 08, 2021, 07:16:25 AM

Silverwood's comments are totally 100% expected and anyone thinking that white ball isn't the priority for the ECB is plain wrong. However, I do hope he is fired (not likely at all) or feels such guilt, that he resigns.

Why do you hope he loses his job? He's doing a good job, much better than bayliss ever did with the test team and we are changing and trying to play proper test match cricket now, which will only benefit us?

You confuse me!

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #1663 on:** March 08, 2021, 10:08:04 AM »

Quote from: alexhilly1492 on March 08, 2021, 07:37:37 AM

Why do you hope he loses his job? He's doing a good job, much better than bayliss ever did with the test team and we are changing and trying to play proper test match cricket now, which will only benefit us?

You confuse me!

oh Bayliss really was worse still tbf.

Umm, he's rotating players to 'rest' them but then putting them into the white ball legs and iPL.. why not rest them from the teams that we have many many more options for? makes little to no sense

I do hope they stick with

Burns
Sibley
Crawley
Root
Stokes
Pope
Foakes

as the top 7. just let them develop. Only position under review is Burns but even then.. literally no one else sticking their hands up currently. Review in 12 months if he still avg's less than 40

Jimbo · « **Reply #1664 on:** March 08, 2021, 10:43:26 AM »

Buttler's record at 6 is really very good though so I can see the argument that Pope would benefit from some time back in county cricket to get back to his best after injury.

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