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Re: England v India series
« Reply #690 on: September 06, 2021, 01:58:21 PM »

Bumrah is quality, and anything above 200 was going to be a tough chase with our fragile/aggressive batting lineup. The second new ball spells doom for us
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #691 on: September 06, 2021, 02:20:37 PM »

These effing drag ons

Jesus Christ
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #692 on: September 06, 2021, 02:27:05 PM »

Pitch still dead, just no one including the experts expected the reverse swing to come into play. What swings test cricket brings!
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« Reply #693 on: September 06, 2021, 02:29:32 PM »

India got reverse swing because their spinner, after a few pies yesterday, can actually bowl a proper spell.
Whereas Moeen comes on and gets smashed around.
There are levels to this test cricket malarkey...
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #694 on: September 06, 2021, 02:39:44 PM »

This Thakur guy punches above his weight. Though not a massive wicket taker, he picked up the highest scorer in Eng 1st innings, opened up the gates today morning and then the wicket of Root. Plus without his batting in both innings, game would have been over by Day 4.
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« Reply #695 on: September 06, 2021, 02:40:48 PM »

This Thakur guy punches above his weight. Though not a massive wicket taker, he picked up the highest scorer in Eng 1st innings, opened up the gates today morning and then the wicket of Root. Plus without his batting in both innings, game would have been over by Day 4.
Burying Ashwin’s hopes in this series
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #696 on: September 06, 2021, 02:46:05 PM »

Burying Ashwin’s hopes in this series
Can't blame Thakur for Ashwin's non-inclusion. Thakur more than proved his worth in this test. Ashwin could replace Rahane, still score more runs than him just as a batter.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #697 on: September 06, 2021, 02:48:57 PM »

Can't blame Thakur for Ashwin's non-inclusion. Thakur more than proved his worth in this test. Ashwin could replace Rahane, still score more runs than him just as a batter.
You might get your wish at Old Trafford...
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #698 on: September 06, 2021, 02:57:24 PM »

As @Buzz said, it’s good test match cricket from India, we cannot bat the whole day.
Vaughan on commentary saying the best chance for us winning is Hameed getting out shows why certain pundits should never be listened to.

If we can’t win we must try to draw. It’s beyond belief some of the garbage that gets put out in the media
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #699 on: September 06, 2021, 03:03:16 PM »

Irrespective of what Vaughan said, Hameed batting was really surprising. With 300 to chase, 10 wickets in hand and a flat pitch, he seemed batting for a draw up front. Can understand if he switched into block mode after few wickets fell but when he batted, Eng were only 2 down. If Eng got 40 more runs in first session, it could have ended quite differently.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #700 on: September 06, 2021, 03:06:09 PM »

Got Malan, Bairstow and Ali to come. Eng have really good chance of winning
I take it back.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #701 on: September 06, 2021, 03:08:22 PM »

Irrespective of what Vaughan said, Hameed batting was really surprising. With 300 to chase, 10 wickets in hand and a flat pitch, he seemed batting for a draw up front. Can understand if he switched into block mode after few wickets fell but when he batted, Eng were only 2 down. If Eng got 40 more runs in first session, it could have ended quite differently.
Nonsense...wickets did not fall because England were trying to chase the runs down. Wickets fell to some excellent bowling. If it wasnt for Hameed and Burns, this match would have ended already. Flat or not, its never easy chasing such a big score on Day 5. Also credit to Indian bowlers to the way they stuck to their lines in the morning session.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #702 on: September 06, 2021, 03:08:59 PM »

Irrespective of what Vaughan said, Hameed batting was really surprising. With 300 to chase, 10 wickets in hand and a flat pitch, he seemed batting for a draw up front. Can understand if he switched into block mode after few wickets fell but when he batted, Eng were only 2 down. If Eng got 40 more runs in first session, it could have ended quite differently.

No I cannot see that point of view at all, England have enough stroke players down the order, Hameed has a job to do and was doing exact what was needed, he got a great ball from out of the rough.

England lost this in the field, you cannot let good sides off with too many chances, which we did.
India in this game have been better all round.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #703 on: September 06, 2021, 03:10:53 PM »

Irrespective of what Vaughan said, Hameed batting was really surprising. With 300 to chase, 10 wickets in hand and a flat pitch, he seemed batting for a draw up front. Can understand if he switched into block mode after few wickets fell but when he batted, Eng were only 2 down. If Eng got 40 more runs in first session, it could have ended quite differently.

I don't think he was batting for a draw, he was just batting. They had a man out for the clip off his pads and didn't give him anything short and wide, he doesn't have many other scoring options. Can see it be an ongoing issue with him where he gets off to a start then just grinds to a halt as oppositions just block off his 2 areas. He tried one break away shot from Jadeja and got dropped.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #704 on: September 06, 2021, 03:11:04 PM »

Nonsense...wickets did not fall because England were trying to chase the runs down. Wickets fell to some excellent bowling. If it wasnt for Hameed and Burns, this match would have ended already. Flat or not, its never easy chasing such a big score on Day 5. Also credit to Indian bowlers to the way they stuck to their lines in the morning session.

Totally right. Plus our fielding. A 250 chase is far different from 350 plus. It’s turning and that creates doubt which helps their seamers.

And their seamers are very good.
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