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England v India series
« on: July 21, 2021, 08:37:20 AM »
England squad announced today and one newspaper tipping a nailed on return for Bairstow.
I know some of the youngsters won’t all make it thru, Crawley maybe taken out for a while, Sibley not sure about.

But I cannot fathom why JB would get a recall for Test matches.Maybe it’s not what you know it’s who you know.
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2021, 09:35:11 AM »
If Bairstow really is back that's an atrocious bit of selection unless he's the backup to the backup. Even if that's the case, why not get one of your gun white ball players playing more white ball cricket in the run up to a WC?
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2021, 09:49:33 AM »
Bracey looked out of his depth as a batter and second keeper, I think Bairstow will be in the top 3 again which has been tried before, and therefore back up keeper.

You need some sort of back up keeper if Foakes is not fit, or had no cricket at all,but it's the batting that has caused us issues.

If we don't try to fix the batting we will continue to struggle home and away. Someone like Malan could do a job but if the choice is an out of form Crawley or Bairstow who has done nothing I'd rather stick with Crawley.

Problem for England I think is there's no obvious number 3 from County cricket to slot in.
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2021, 10:39:28 AM »
Why not stick with Burns and Sibley, and give Hameed a try at 3?
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2021, 10:44:33 AM »
Quote from: ppccopener on July 21, 2021, 09:49:33 AM
Problem for England I think is there's no obvious number 3 from County cricket to slot in.

At least partly because there has hardly been any county cricket?

Dan Lawrence, for example, won't have played any (hate this) 'red-ball' cricket from the end of the last Test series to the beginning of the next.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2021, 11:04:40 AM »
Quote from: FattusCattus on July 21, 2021, 10:39:28 AM
Why not stick with Burns and Sibley, and give Hameed a try at 3?

A season behind him might be better, but England got him around the squad last series, and he has had success against India away.
Normally when someone gets called into the squad but doesn't play it's a sign they have them in their plans.
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2021, 11:08:01 AM »
This all seems a bit random, does it not.  I don't ascribe to the "we hate Jonny" view espoused by many on here, but I also think that if he is to return to the Test side, unless common sense has prevailed and he is taking the gloves back, in which case batting form is slightly less relevant, then he ought to be told to go and dominate in County cricket.  He has not played any first class cricket since India, so throwing him in just risks causing more uncertainty as to whether he is good enough.
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2021, 11:44:16 AM »
Quote from: Manormanic on July 21, 2021, 11:08:01 AM
This all seems a bit random, does it not.  I don't ascribe to the "we hate Jonny" view espoused by many on here, but I also think that if he is to return to the Test side, unless common sense has prevailed and he is taking the gloves back, in which case batting form is slightly less relevant, then he ought to be told to go and dominate in County cricket.  He has not played any first class cricket since India, so throwing him in just risks causing more uncertainty as to whether he is good enough.

Love Bairstow, but as a white ball cricketer. Genuinely think he is one of the all time greats for England in short format cricket.

Can't see a good reason to include him, even as a backup keeper. Foakes and Buttler are ahead of him, if either of them are out then I'd look at the guys performing earlier in the season in CC. Would rather see the likes of Hameed in the squad as batting backups.
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Re: England v India series
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2021, 12:07:42 PM »
A bruised heel. Doing what? He's spent practically the last 7 months doing nothing...
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2021, 12:12:06 PM »
Bairstow is indeed back, named with Crawley and Hameed who is currently batting against India in a warm up game.

Good to see Robinson back to restart his career.

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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2021, 12:14:03 PM »
Yeah agreed on Robinson. In English conditions would be daft not to pick him given how well he bowled against NZ.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2021, 02:45:16 PM »
Quote from: Jimbo on July 21, 2021, 11:44:16 AM
Can't see a good reason to include him, even as a backup keeper. Foakes and Buttler are ahead of him, if either of them are out then I'd look at the guys performing earlier in the season in CC. Would rather see the likes of Hameed in the squad as batting backups.

To be fair to England, I am struggling to think of a keeper who is a better bet at present, what with Foakes out.  Davies has not been keeping for Lancashire, Bracey was rather badly found out by the Kiwis and Simpson has not done much at Middlesex in FC cricket. 
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2021, 03:05:50 PM »
Funny, Bracey was such a popular pick!

I'd back Simpson or Ben Brown to do a decent short-term job, if needed.

But we're still hoping Bairstow will rediscover his batting, aren't we?
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