Topic: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22 (Read 90742 times)

ppccopener · « **Reply #225 on:** December 11, 2021, 08:40:41 AM »

I�m with most others, team selection has got to be questioned.

I would like to see Silverwood step up and face the music.
I like seeing us play a spinner, but not on the greenest wicket we have seen for years in place of broad and Anderson

Devondumpling00 · « **Reply #226 on:** December 11, 2021, 10:53:39 AM »

Oh dear. Shame to see us fold like that on the fourth day. There was a sense of inevitability once Malan and Root fell quickly. The jury is still out on Leach, is he a test match quality spinner or not? The lack of faith to test that theory only affects his confidence and form, and to see him get targeted is only going to make things worse for him. Root didn't trust him prior to this test, and he's probably less inclined to after the test. What we are certain of, is that he's not in a position to succeed with the constant failings of the batsmen.

Burns is getting another shot in Adelaide, for sure. Out of all of our recent top order uncertainties, Burns has been the best of a bad bunch over the last 2 years. If Crawley is there with them, why is he not part of the Lions match to get some practice?

Is the Adelaide D/N test the best chance we've got to win a test, this series?

golders · « **Reply #227 on:** December 11, 2021, 11:06:22 AM »

Quote from: Devondumpling00 on December 11, 2021, 10:53:39 AM

Oh dear. Shame to see us fold like that on the fourth day. There was a sense of inevitability once Malan and Root fell quickly. The jury is still out on Leach, is he a test match quality spinner or not? The lack of faith to test that theory only affects his confidence and form, and to see him get targeted is only going to make things worse for him. Root didn't trust him prior to this test, and he's probably less inclined to after the test. What we are certain of, is that he's not in a position to succeed with the constant failings of the batsmen.

Burns is getting another shot in Adelaide, for sure. Out of all of our recent top order uncertainties, Burns has been the best of a bad bunch over the last 2 years. If Crawley is there with them, why is he not part of the Lions match to get some practice?

Is the Adelaide D/N test the best chance we've got to win a test, this series?

Burns scores a lot of ducks,something like 5 or 6 this calendar year. He's closing in on an unwanted record...

Agree they should have given the likes of Crawley some match practice, doh!

rickjames · « **Reply #228 on:** December 11, 2021, 11:39:05 AM »

Fined for a slow over rate as well. Wonder if the penny will ever drop...

six and out · « **Reply #229 on:** December 11, 2021, 11:55:45 AM »

Selection for Adelaide will be interesting, I think Burns gets another shot, so I don't think there will be any changes from 1-7.

Broad and Anderson coming in and you would think one has to be for Leach. The other there is options -

1. Replace Woakes and the batting goes down (although I think Woakes is going to be bounced out all series).

2. Replace Robinson who was our best bowler in this test

3. Replace Wood and the attack starts to look a bit samey.

Interesting that the Aussie bowlers actually bowled more overs then ours as well.

SurreySam · « **Reply #230 on:** December 11, 2021, 11:59:03 AM »

Think I'd give Crawley a run out next time, he'd be a better option than Burns in the cordan too.

Devondumpling00 · « **Reply #231 on:** December 11, 2021, 12:06:15 PM »

Quote from: six and out on December 11, 2021, 11:55:45 AM

Selection for Adelaide will be interesting, I think Burns gets another shot, so I don't think there will be any changes from 1-7.

Broad and Anderson coming in and you would think one has to be for Leach. The other there is options -

1. Replace Woakes and the batting goes down (although I think Woakes is going to be bounced out all series).

2. Replace Robinson who was our best bowler in this test

3. Replace Wood and the attack starts to look a bit samey.

Interesting that the Aussie bowlers actually bowled more overs then ours as well.

Woakes out for me. He was the least threatening of the seamers in my opinion. I agree with you with regards to Woakes getting bounced out. They have his number, even if he is a talented batter. Woakes shouldn't have to prop up the batting anyway.

Broad and Anderson for Leach and Woakes.

Bungle · « **Reply #232 on:** December 11, 2021, 12:36:44 PM »

Quote from: SurreySam on December 11, 2021, 11:59:03 AM

Think I'd give Crawley a run out next time, he'd be a better option than Burns in the cordan too.

I remember when he scored his double ton SKY kept going over how good he was at playing off the back foot, could be very handy on a bouncy pitch. I'm sure he will get given a go at some point in the series, especially at this rate.

SurreySam · « **Reply #233 on:** December 11, 2021, 07:16:12 PM »

To be fair he was pretty decent on the front foot as well in that innings against PAK.

rickjames · « **Reply #234 on:** December 11, 2021, 08:29:50 PM »

How many of our batsmen have actually played a D/N test? Root, Malan, Stokes, Bairstow is it, right?

billyb · « **Reply #235 on:** December 11, 2021, 10:15:42 PM »

Did anyone else see the list of averages for this year? The cupboard is horrifically bare. Without Root, we would be one of the worst test sides going.

Root 64.33
Malan 38.80
Buttler 29.00
Burns 28.94
Hameed 27.42
Lawrence 27.23
Woakes 26.24
Bairstow 25.07
Pope 23.93
Stokes 22.20
Sibley 19.77

2 players have scored 100s - Root and Burns. 12 players have scored 50s.

ppccopener · « **Reply #236 on:** December 11, 2021, 10:31:50 PM »

Haven�t seen them but batting wise with this last test an exception where we picked the wrong attack and batted when we should of fielded first�.it shows why the selectors have a difficult task. There just is not the quality. I think Burns has the next highest run tally over 12 months.

I doubt there has been a year since the 80 s when the top 5 averaged less, Root excepted.

Rez · « **Reply #237 on:** December 11, 2021, 10:38:51 PM »

I'm sure most of us were expecting it to be a rough ride this series but blimey we look so poor now!

Small positives in Robinson looking very much at home and Wood certainly worrying them at times but not a lot else to get excited about. Hameed looked ok and nice to see an opener keeping things simple, good to see Root and Malan scoring runs but then both falling even before the new ball arrived the following day was criminal.

Whilst I agree that Leach was handed a tough job, I really don't think he is good enough at the highest level and I'd much rather see us investing time in someone like Parkinson who has a bit about him.

Whilst we are at it, the talk of taking someone like Livingstone.... why not? Would he do any worse than Pope? We are certainly lacking in true world class red ball cricketers but what we lack the most right now is belief and the swagger that goes with it, something we carry so well in white ball cricket.

billyb · « **Reply #238 on:** December 11, 2021, 10:40:56 PM »

You are right!
Root 1544
Burns 492
Pope 359
Sibley 356
Lawrence 354
Bairstow 351
Buttler 219

Jimbo · « **Reply #239 on:** December 11, 2021, 11:09:52 PM »

Quote from: Rez on December 11, 2021, 10:38:51 PM

I'm sure most of us were expecting it to be a rough ride this series but blimey we look so poor now!

Small positives in Robinson looking very much at home and Wood certainly worrying them at times but not a lot else to get excited about. Hameed looked ok and nice to see an opener keeping things simple, good to see Root and Malan scoring runs but then both falling even before the new ball arrived the following day was criminal.

Whilst I agree that Leach was handed a tough job, I really don't think he is good enough at the highest level and I'd much rather see us investing time in someone like Parkinson who has a bit about him.

Whilst we are at it, the talk of taking someone like Livingstone.... why not? Would he do any worse than Pope? We are certainly lacking in true world class red ball cricketers but what we lack the most right now is belief and the swagger that goes with it, something we carry so well in white ball cricket.

Livingstone is by no means an awful red ball player (just shy of a 40 average in his career so no mug) but Pope's FC record is phenomenal and I think with time he will come good.

Bear in mind he was one of the only ones who contributed first innings so it's not like he's been a write off so far.

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