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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2021, 05:52:38 PM »

If you have read between the lines of the last ECB paragraph we are not prepared to send an under strength squad. So either the players get the details they need or postponement.

My money is on a rescheduled tour, not sure how that works with England’s packed schedule for 2022.

Yes, seems to have ruled out sending the best available squad prepared to travel if a number of first choice players opt out.

Not an easy task rescheduling tours given the packed calendar.
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« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2021, 07:06:40 PM »

They have packed next summer for our home series games and we do owe the Windies a home series for them to make some money from our travelling fans.
 And yes, we also owe Pakistan as long as a sensible venue is picked like previously-the UAE.

The ECB I wouldn’t think would put our players under pressure to play in the Ashes, but they are probably also thinking just where it could be rescheduled for.

Tricky.
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« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2021, 08:08:07 PM »

It’s a good battle this between the ECB and CA…

CA can’t afford to not travel the broadcast money will be massive for them and with 7 already trying to squirm out of the deal it’s not going to be easy for them not to grant the ECB’s requests. But the major sticking point is the politicians rather than the cricket board stopping the families travelling.

Will be interesting to see how the next week pans out.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2021, 11:01:34 AM »

Joe Root (Yorkshire) Captain
James Anderson (Lancashire)
Jonathan Bairstow (Yorkshire)
Dom Bess (Yorkshire)
Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire)
Rory Burns (Surrey)
Jos Buttler (Lancashire)
Zak Crawley (Kent)
Haseeb Hameed (Nottinghamshire)
Dan Lawrence (Essex)
Jack Leach (Somerset)
Dawid Malan (Yorkshire)
Craig Overton (Somerset)
Ollie Pope (Surrey)
Ollie Robinson (Sussex)
Chris Woakes (Warwickshire)
Mark Wood (Durham)

Shame there's no Foakes
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2021, 11:48:28 AM »

Attack missing a bit of firepower IMO. Feel like Parkinson and Mahmood would add more than Bess and one of the seamers.

Robinson should be handy on bouncy wickets, likewise Overton, very much in the Tremlett model. Worry is that Wood is going to be flogged into the ground very quickly and then there's no X factor about the attack.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2021, 11:48:39 AM »

Given it appears that there will be a lions squad out there for the full duration of the trip, non-selection in this squad wouldn't appear to be terminal to the chances of playing at some point in the series.

Given only one away team has one a series in the last twondecades and without Stokes and Archer, it is a tall order
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2021, 01:47:42 PM »

Attack missing a bit of firepower IMO. Feel like Parkinson and Mahmood would add more than Bess and one of the seamers.

Robinson should be handy on bouncy wickets, likewise Overton, very much in the Tremlett model. Worry is that Wood is going to be flogged into the ground very quickly and then there's no X factor about the attack.

We know it’s very hard to balance the side without Stokes, and Crawley,Pope and Lawrence all in I expect us to go safety first and pack the batting even down to the 7 batsmen again.

There is a lack of firepower so we may have to pack the batting, unfortunately apart from Foakes..who looks likely only to play in Sri Lanka….this is probably the best we can select.

We do look the weakest we have been for a few years so I think expectations are fairly low. I certainly don’t expect us to win.
A draw might be a good result.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2021, 02:11:16 PM »

I still think there is more to come out from this, the 'several critical conditions must be met before we travel' quote in the ECB statement has so many things attached to it.

Not saying what those conditions are allows the ECB and ACB some room for manoeuvre though.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2021, 02:34:17 PM »

Well I think we will struggle to win most games, but I will enjoy watching the boys play some quality cricket nonetheless.

Now to figure out that brutal time difference...
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2021, 03:54:39 PM »

So Bess to be number 1 spinner, because his batting is better than Leach!?
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« Reply #40 on: October 10, 2021, 05:29:04 PM »

So Bess to be number 1 spinner, because his batting is better than Leach!?

well not the worst squad in the world. Just remember the Aussies have not been playing very well either. Get Smith out early and it's game on.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #41 on: October 10, 2021, 06:04:05 PM »

So Bess to be number 1 spinner, because his batting is better than Leach!?

That could be the road we go down…Leach is the better spinner but I think myself we will need lower order runs to stay in the games.
There’s already loads on Roots shoulders, Malan has played well before out there, Hameed we don’t know how he is against pace.
 
So once again we will need runs from anywhere.
I also think Robinson will do well, Wood we can’t afford to bowl into the ground.

Looks a hard tour to me.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2021, 07:51:32 AM »

So Bess to be number 1 spinner, because his batting is better than Leach!?

When I look at trying to balance the side with that squad, it sends shivers through me TBH. Unless we think a 4 man attack plus Root is going to bowl out the Aussies than Woakes/Bess/Robinson is batting 7 in Australia against their attack.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2021, 07:54:21 AM »

With Silverwood and Root picking the side Leach and Bess will just be carrying drinks. Unless there's a big turner, in which case they will pick one of them for the following match.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2021, 08:12:14 AM »

Woakes is at least as capable a 7 as Curran or Ali have been in test cricket.

Yes I'd feel better with Stokes in the top 6 and say Buttler at 7 but I'm more worried by the lack of incisiveness that bowling attack has unless the pitch is doing a bit.

If you're the Aussies looking at that squad, you're preparing tracks with absolutely no lateral movement and lining up Hazelwood, Starc, Cummins, Green, Pattinson, etc to blow England away with pace.
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