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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #90 on: November 16, 2021, 05:06:09 PM »

My understanding was that 'Zimbo' is like Aussie or Kiwi, there's no history of it being used to denigrate people or to abuse minorities, unlike the P-word.
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« Reply #91 on: November 16, 2021, 05:06:30 PM »

Is the hearing carrying on tomorrow?

It's pretty piss poor Yorkshire didn't send any witnesses to the committee, I think that speaks volumes really.
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #92 on: November 16, 2021, 05:28:14 PM »

Yes it is, only Hutton who didn’t know Rafiq and has only recently been appointed in the last couple of years

Looks like Bumble is now in hot water, Rafiq referring to him as a closet racist for remarks made about Asian players in club cricket.
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #93 on: November 16, 2021, 05:34:14 PM »

He said Asian cricketers don't go in the bar. Is this really racist?
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #94 on: November 16, 2021, 05:41:12 PM »

He said trying to get Asian players to pay subs is like getting blood out of a stone which is tarring everyone with the same brush.

The issue of the bar is one I know well, most of my teammates don’t drink alcohol because of their religion and don’t go in the bar

That’s perfectly normal in the part of the Country I’m from and elsewhere I’m sure.

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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #95 on: November 16, 2021, 05:44:09 PM »

He said Asian cricketers don't go in the bar. Is this really racist?

Think it was more than that.....

 'the club houses are the life blood of a club and Asian players don't go in there', 'getting subs out of Asian players is like getting blood out of stone'.

‘And then personally this guy doesn’t even know me, has never spent any time with me, is talking about my personal drinking, going out and socialising.'
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #96 on: November 16, 2021, 05:47:45 PM »

I didn't know the first bit. Sorry.


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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #97 on: November 16, 2021, 05:49:45 PM »

But we've admitted there is at least some truth in the statement?
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #98 on: November 16, 2021, 05:54:19 PM »

If Del Boy had done the Steve 'joke' on Only Fools and Horses, we'd all have found it hilarious. Wouldn't we?

(Playing devil's advocate here a little bit.)
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #99 on: November 16, 2021, 06:09:46 PM »

If Del Boy had done the Steve 'joke' on Only Fools and Horses, we'd all have found it hilarious. Wouldn't we?

(Playing devil's advocate here a little bit.)

Do we really want to use an 80s sitcom as our moral compass though?

Also very different if the joke is 'this guy is too dim to get simple names right when they're not British' as opposed to 'ha ha foreign names are funny'.
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #100 on: November 16, 2021, 06:14:49 PM »

I'm not sure I could confidently tell you what Pujara's first name is. And I've watched him a fair bit.
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #101 on: November 16, 2021, 06:23:22 PM »

I'm not sure I could confidently tell you what Pujara's first name is. And I've watched him a fair bit.

But you could presumably bother yourself to learn the name of a new work colleague rather than refusing to use their name because it's 'too foreign'.
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #102 on: November 16, 2021, 06:31:51 PM »

But you could presumably bother yourself to learn the name of a new work colleague rather than refusing to use their name because it's 'too foreign'.

Honestly, I might also have seen the 'funny' side in calling him Steve. Names we are unfamiliar with are more difficult to remember.

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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #103 on: November 16, 2021, 06:44:05 PM »

Jack Brooks has deleted his Twitter account. :o
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #104 on: November 16, 2021, 06:54:25 PM »

It’s pretty ignorant for team mates to use an English name for a foreign player but we have all been in dressing rooms where someone who thinks you might struggle with their names shortens it for you

For example Chetswara might be call me Chets….

But if would have to come from him. To substitute an English name is ignorant and should not be done.
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