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Bungle

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« Reply #105 on: March 18, 2022, 10:54:06 AM »

Hopefully the ICC doesn't see it as a way for more "big scores" "big name player scores 250" etc. Test cricket is best when the batters have to really fight for their runs, if both sides are scoring 400+ in the first innings then the match will end up a draw almost every time.
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« Reply #106 on: March 18, 2022, 01:58:33 PM »

Mark Wood elbow gone pop. Good old cement pitches smh
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« Reply #107 on: March 18, 2022, 02:12:01 PM »

ICC needs some sort of mandate for pitches. You see matches in India lasting 8 sessions. Then you get cement pitches in Pakistan and the Caribbean.
I don’t see what these flat dead pitches do for test cricket.

I was having a chat with a friend of mine in India who plays 1st class there and pro's here in the UK about the state of pitches in India and why they're so poor from day 1 of a test match - he basically said the Indian public are less interested in 5 day test matches and want quicker games otherwise they will switch off which impacts TV revenue from the sponsors etc. They have a big Star Sports TV deal and having quicker test matches that only India will win is better for bringing in revenue and keeping the fans interested.

IPL has killed the national team game over there, so they will keep producing (No Swearing Please) pitches.
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« Reply #108 on: March 18, 2022, 03:46:12 PM »

Mark Wood elbow gone pop. Good old cement pitches smh

This is the reason some of us get irate with the workload on Stokes.

From 4-5 quicks 12 months ago we are down to zero
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« Reply #109 on: March 18, 2022, 08:44:38 PM »

This is the reason some of us get irate with the workload on Stokes.

From 4-5 quicks 12 months ago we are down to zero

Exactly
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« Reply #110 on: March 18, 2022, 09:44:00 PM »

This is a truly abject surface for test match cricket and England have a very underwhelming bowling attack, but I can't understand why Root isn't proactive in at least trying to make something happen. 

Leach hasn't been able to hit a good length at all yet Root has allowed him to send down 264 balls in this innings in the return for the single wicket of a wide ball hit straight at point yet has barely bowled himself or Lawrence
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« Reply #111 on: March 19, 2022, 12:35:58 AM »

I think it’s time England cut their losses on Jack Leach. He’s very limited and quite frankly not test standard.
This pitch, whilst dead as a dodo for seam bowlers, was setup for Leach to work his way through the West Indians.
Any left arm spinner worth their salt should be able to land the ball consistently in the right area - both Leach and Permaul bowl too short and on leg stump. Leach’s 1-90 odd is quite frankly embarrassing.
Imagine what the likes of Jadeja, Al Hasan or that new guy Axar would’ve done on this pitch.
If Parkinson is as good as he’s made out to be, get him in the side.
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« Reply #112 on: March 19, 2022, 07:39:49 AM »

I think it’s time England cut their losses on Jack Leach. He’s very limited and quite frankly not test standard.
This pitch, whilst dead as a dodo for seam bowlers, was setup for Leach to work his way through the West Indians.
Any left arm spinner worth their salt should be able to land the ball consistently in the right area - both Leach and Permaul bowl too short and on leg stump. Leach’s 1-90 odd is quite frankly embarrassing.
Imagine what the likes of Jadeja, Al Hasan or that new guy Axar would’ve done on this pitch.
If Parkinson is as good as he’s made out to be, get him in the side.

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rickjames

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« Reply #113 on: March 19, 2022, 04:30:06 PM »

Boards need to have the book thrown at them for pitches like this

Awful session of 'cricket'
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« Reply #114 on: March 19, 2022, 04:59:47 PM »

I think it’s time England cut their losses on Jack Leach. He’s very limited and quite frankly not test standard.
This pitch, whilst dead as a dodo for seam bowlers, was setup for Leach to work his way through the West Indians.
Any left arm spinner worth their salt should be able to land the ball consistently in the right area - both Leach and Permaul bowl too short and on leg stump. Leach’s 1-90 odd is quite frankly embarrassing.
Imagine what the likes of Jadeja, Al Hasan or that new guy Axar would’ve done on this pitch.
If Parkinson is as good as he’s made out to be, get him in the side.

I could support the idea of leaving Broad and Anderson at home if it was an opportunity to see some new faces with a view to the Ashes in 4 years time.  What I don't get is picking over 30s like Woakes and Leach.

Parkinson should have played here. He may or may not be good enough at this level, but he is someone who bowls genuinely threatening deliveries which Leach simply doesn't
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« Reply #115 on: March 19, 2022, 05:04:17 PM »

I rely on BBC text for info but with only one and a half days to go it’s as flat as the last one. Whatever spin is on show it’s too slow to worry anybody.

You are left to presume with the England side being on such demand in the Caribbean for revue, travelling fans in bars and hotels etc…the two pitches are deliberately done like this to get the full 10 days cricket.

I don’t personally find this type of cricket enjoyable, I expect us to be disadvantaged away but this is in no one’s favour.

Would like to see Parkinson given a try next game just to see if there’s potential
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« Reply #116 on: March 19, 2022, 05:08:57 PM »

A proper snooze fest.

Can't even judge Englands players accordingly. I don't think Leach gets another shot after this series.
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« Reply #117 on: March 19, 2022, 05:28:48 PM »

Well done Saqib! Bit of a gift
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Bungle

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« Reply #118 on: March 19, 2022, 05:54:23 PM »

Hopefully they can get them all out before the end of play today, at least we could get a day of batting practice tomorrow. With pitches like this, there's just no chance of a result at all.
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« Reply #119 on: March 19, 2022, 05:57:01 PM »

I thought West Indies would increase the scoring after avoiding the follow on. But Brathwaite seems happy to bat on forever...
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