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adb club cricketer

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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #75 on: March 11, 2022, 04:48:34 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on March 11, 2022, 04:07:22 PM
Thing is, if it's straight and you miss it, you should be out either way?

Not necessarily. Two things at play here
1) If leg stump guard, you have easy access to ball on middle and off stump lines (as pads out of the way), so you play with bat more often for balls on the stumps line
2)  If the ball is angling in and impact on leg stump line, then high chance it might be going down leg versus impact on middle or off
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #76 on: March 11, 2022, 07:41:05 PM »
Watching us bat well is quite jarring
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #77 on: March 11, 2022, 07:48:10 PM »
Yes both Crawley and Root have got themselves in

But let’s not get too giddy, this is a very flat pitch. It does not appear to be turning much either. We struggled to bowl them out and overseas Woakes does not have good figures. Overton is even less threatening thou hopefully we give someone else a chance in the next game.
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« Reply #78 on: March 11, 2022, 08:18:40 PM »
Great for Zak Crawley to get his second test Ton, when he gets in and playing well it’s such a nice change to the likes of Sibley and Burns before him. See if he can make it a daddy one like his last and kick on in this series and year.
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #79 on: March 11, 2022, 09:13:40 PM »
Just looked at the score... The pitch must be an absolute road.
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« Reply #80 on: March 11, 2022, 10:51:31 PM »
Runs for Root, Bairstow, Crawley, and Foakes. Don't care about the pitch, this is just what England needed!
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #81 on: March 11, 2022, 11:30:15 PM »
Quote from: adb club cricketer on March 11, 2022, 04:48:34 PM
Not necessarily. Two things at play here
1) If leg stump guard, you have easy access to ball on middle and off stump lines (as pads out of the way), so you play with bat more often for balls on the stumps line
2)  If the ball is angling in and impact on leg stump line, then high chance it might be going down leg versus impact on middle or off

If it's going down leg, it's going down leg. I said if the ball was straight.

I would say one of the benefits of off/middle and off is probably that you can get your pad outside the line to the ball jagging back in to hit the stumps.

Another thing I've heard is that players have realised they were triggering to get onto off-stump, so have thought why no just start there?

But I'm not a fan, and I understand the accessing the ball / not 'closing yourself off' arguments.
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #82 on: March 16, 2022, 06:15:01 PM »
Root looking classy in this knock, not really noticed it before but his cover drive is Ian Bell good it’s that nice to watch.

Lees and Crawley doing the England opened job of getting in then out or just none at all. Be good to see how Lawrence goes as he was really going for it to help England try and set up the win in the 2nd innings last test. Pitch looks a bit better but reckon this will be another flat hard slog for the bowlers.

Fisher and Mahmood making there debuts so wishing them well
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #83 on: March 16, 2022, 06:24:06 PM »
Good start at 100/2 but I think they are a bowler light. Don't want to risk Stokes for too many overs and not sure how Fisher or Mahmood will do bowling 20+ overs at this level.
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #84 on: March 16, 2022, 06:38:58 PM »
Mahmood struggled noticeably to maintaining his pace in first class cricket last year. Fisher does not struggle to do so but has a past littered with injuries. That said, the pitch looks to be one on which Leach will be kept pretty busy anyway, and we have two decent part timers in Root and Lawrence. (note - I was SOOOOO tempted to add Woakes and call it three part timers!)
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #85 on: March 16, 2022, 06:39:35 PM »
Woakes/Fisher/Mahmood/Leach plus overs from Stokes, Lawrence and Root? It's not massively experienced but surely they should be able to get enough bowling out of that lineup.
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #86 on: March 16, 2022, 06:56:08 PM »
Yea it’s enough bowling with Leach away from the right handers and Root and Lawrence in. What we do not want is Root constantly going to Stokes in this game. He is an absolute star but Root does not seem to grasp over bowling guys into the ground.

On a more positive note, second innings last test and first this one, Lawrence seems to me to have the confidence to play.

Early days thou.
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #87 on: March 16, 2022, 07:11:46 PM »
We really don't deserve Joe Root
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #88 on: March 16, 2022, 07:24:30 PM »
Love this from Lawrence, hoping he can push on to a real statement score.
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #89 on: March 16, 2022, 07:48:37 PM »
Dan Lawrence SR of 76, pretty impressive for 50 runs in this format. It would be a real message if he gets a decent score here.
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