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Re: Eng Test team... Stokes' warriors
« Reply #45 on: May 18, 2022, 01:14:17 PM »

Which does beg the question, why is Harry Brook there and not scoring more runs for Yorkshire.


Tomorrow's fixtures are the last round of CC before T20 starts.
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Re: Eng Test team... Stokes' warriors
« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2022, 09:14:40 AM »

On another note Will Macpherson has said we might hear about another setback for Jofra

I'm at the point now where I don't think we'll see him bowl again
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Re: Eng Test team... Stokes' warriors
« Reply #47 on: May 19, 2022, 09:32:46 AM »

Stress fracture of his back, so not his elbow again... Who would be a fast bowler.
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Re: Eng Test team... Stokes' warriors
« Reply #48 on: May 19, 2022, 10:04:49 AM »

The best that can be hoped for from that squad selection is that it is last chance for a number of the incumbents before the new management team has the time to properly assess the alternatives. England has a remarkable consistency of selection for a side that has won 1 of its last 17 tests
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Re: Eng Test team... Stokes' warriors
« Reply #49 on: May 19, 2022, 10:27:43 AM »

Archer will bowl only limited overs in future, to be honest he would be mad to do anything else.

We, as in England should be shouldering some of the blame. Not all the blame but sum of it.

He was over bowled in Tests and we didn’t give him enough time for his body to make the change from IPL to a five day test
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Re: Eng Test team... Stokes' warriors
« Reply #50 on: May 19, 2022, 10:37:19 AM »

The best that can be hoped for from that squad selection is that it is last chance for a number of the incumbents before the new management team has the time to properly assess the alternatives. England has a remarkable consistency of selection for a side that has won 1 of its last 17 tests

This does make sense in a way to me. Why not give those who failed a chance under new management. Its amazing the wonders confidence does to one in sport. They were picked for a reason in the first place. Maybe Stokes and McCullum will bring more stability or clarity of roles to players which will help them relax and perform better.
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Re: Eng Test team... Stokes' warriors
« Reply #51 on: May 19, 2022, 10:43:31 AM »

got to feel for Jofra, was bowled into the ground in Australia by a captain and coaching setup who had no tactical ability at all and it has cost him years of his career and who knows how much financially .

Im starting to doubt we will see him in an england shirt again, if i were his agent id be advising to let the ecb pay for all the rehab then go play t20 for a living.
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Re: Eng Test team... Stokes' warriors
« Reply #52 on: May 19, 2022, 10:50:15 AM »

got to feel for Jofra, was bowled into the ground in Australia by a captain and coaching setup who had no tactical ability at all and it has cost him years of his career and who knows how much financially .

Im starting to doubt we will see him in an england shirt again, if i were his agent id be advising to let the ecb pay for all the rehab then go play t20 for a living.

He's never played for England in Australia
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Re: Eng Test team... Stokes' warriors
« Reply #53 on: May 19, 2022, 11:20:09 AM »

Gutted for Archer, he was potential superstar. He may still become a superstar but it’s seemly less likely with all the injuries.
Back stress fractures can be overcome though. Cummins and Hazlewood had them. They came back. I think Bumrah did his back as well and he came back.
Hopefully Archer can return.
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Re: Eng Test team... Stokes' warriors
« Reply #54 on: May 19, 2022, 12:06:23 PM »

He's never played for England in Australia
my mistake, against australia.

If i remember he bowled a huge amount in NZ as well
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Re: Eng Test team... Stokes' warriors
« Reply #55 on: May 19, 2022, 01:47:26 PM »

The innings we bowled him 42 or 44 overs should be pinned to every dressing room as a blueprint how not to handle genuine pace
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Re: Eng Test team... Stokes' warriors
« Reply #56 on: May 19, 2022, 04:31:18 PM »

So much change, but so little difference.

Whole new test management setup, yet we still can't pick round pegs for round holes. If I'm Josh Bohannon or Dawid Malan, I'm going apoplectic over being overlooked for Ollie Pope (who's not a number 3, never looked like a number 3, and has never scored runs at 3). Brook will end up being the new Matt Parkinson - carrying drinks all day while we shoehorn in the "best mates XI". Potts selection is encouraging. I have completely lost all excitement over this English reset now. This was the opportunity to put down a marker that county runs and wickets get you picked, not just mateship.

Also feel for Jofra, ruined in part by Joe Root and the English management, but also he seems pretty fragile. I really hope he gets the right treatment and comes back stronger than ever.
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Re: Eng Test team... Stokes' warriors
« Reply #57 on: May 19, 2022, 09:19:51 PM »

What are people's thoughts on Sam Hain from Warwickshire?

Doesn't really appear to be mentioned when England squads are being announced or the lack run scoring batsmen are being talked about.

(this is really my only 'claim to fame' in the cricket world) I remember him when he was on a school exchange from Australia to Loretto school, just outside of Edinburgh - he played a few games for our club as the Director of Sport at the school was a club member (we also had Scotland international George Munsey play for us while he was at the school). We were just weekend hackers.

Anyway, Sam was very highly thought of from Mike Powell, who was coaching at the school. They sent him down to Warwickshire for a trial and got signed straight away.  I followed him for a bit and he started to do quite well.  The hope was, I believe, he'd kick on and play for England but it hasn't transpired.

I see he's still in the first XI but don't really follow it.  What do people think of his chances of getting a call-up for England?
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Re: Eng Test team... Stokes' warriors
« Reply #58 on: May 20, 2022, 06:09:17 AM »

What are people's thoughts on Sam Hain from Warwickshire?

Doesn't really appear to be mentioned when England squads are being announced or the lack run scoring batsmen are being talked about.

(this is really my only 'claim to fame' in the cricket world) I remember him when he was on a school exchange from Australia to Loretto school, just outside of Edinburgh - he played a few games for our club as the Director of Sport at the school was a club member (we also had Scotland international George Munsey play for us while he was at the school). We were just weekend hackers.

Anyway, Sam was very highly thought of from Mike Powell, who was coaching at the school. They sent him down to Warwickshire for a trial and got signed straight away.  I followed him for a bit and he started to do quite well.  The hope was, I believe, he'd kick on and play for England but it hasn't transpired.

I see he's still in the first XI but don't really follow it.  What do people think of his chances of getting a call-up for England?
I doubt very much that Hain is that close to selection. I think there are at least half a dozen or more names ahead of him. His one day record is excellent but he's name isn't anywhere near the top of the list.

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Re: Eng Test team... Stokes' warriors
« Reply #59 on: May 20, 2022, 06:36:44 AM »

All about timing for county batsmen hoping for a callup, Hain's probably as close to selection now as Harry Brook was this time last year.
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