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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2022, 11:59:38 AM »

Hadn't we decided that if the wording is something other than plain "Made in England", then it probably wasn't?

We also seem to have decided, for some reason, that M&H are more worthy of finger-pointing than others.
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2022, 12:22:35 PM »

Others are definitely guilty, I think it’s a combination of MH’s pricing and history that means they cop most of the flack about it on here.
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2022, 12:32:35 PM »

I got abuse when I pointed out that Hunts top of range bats no longer clearly advertised as "Made in England". And when I pointed out some Rob Pack bats were stickered "Designed in England".

Yes, I know I need to get out more.😉
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2022, 05:45:05 PM »

My two pennies for what it’s worth is that M&H is now a business and like all business owners they want to make the most profit and money they can. So they have a “base” where the company started and earned its reputation of which at a certain point in time they where truest exceptional bats.

Fast forward and we had the skate board concaved bats with 45-50mm edges when that was the fad and now we are back to the full shape that everyone now wants but within that time they have clearly moved some, all or maybe all overseas to take advantage of cheaper production costs ( doesn’t mean the product is in any way worse by the way) but have tried to retain the traditional roots to the public. Price wise well that’s just down to how much you think a bat or often a set of stickers is worth isn’t it
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2022, 07:11:39 PM »

M and H now, as opposed to years back, is a triumph of marketing and PR to appeal to a certain sense of Englishness and bats handcrafted in Somerset. Cow leather retro hold-all, yes I’ll have two please for 400 quid, one for Rupert and one for Toby.

The problem is bats part shaped by a Sussex batmaker then stickered up and knocked in or imported from India does not quite fit the market they mostly, and I say mostly,appeal to.

They no longer say on their website handmade or handcrafted in England As far as I know and that can only be a good thing.

There’s nothing wrong with importing bats from India providing you don’t say they are made here. Gray Nichols and Newbery have gone the same way.

I had an Original as a teenager and have used an Amplus-probably the best balanced bat I have used-so they do make good bats and some are indeed made in Somerset.
Just not all of them  :)

Anyone can spend their money as they wish but once you have the best grade willow it’s down to the skill of the batmaker, so with  prices as high as they are now what extra do you get from M and H or GM or GN for that matter that you cannot get from a small batmaker.

I cannot think of anything.
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2022, 07:29:32 PM »

Some/many say you don't even need the best grade willow.
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2022, 07:31:22 PM »

I did like their tan pads from several years back. Shame, M&H were brilliant in the late 80s/ 90s.
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2022, 07:35:01 PM »

We should remember that Julian Millichamp was widely regarded as the best batmaker in the world and this was what gave the brand its reputation.
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2022, 08:13:33 PM »

Some/many say you don't even need the best grade willow.

Grade of willow is totally irrelevant to a bats performance it’s the pressing and skill of the person pressing to know that individual piece of timber. Just wish that was more commonly known
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2022, 08:21:22 PM »

Grade of willow is totally irrelevant to a bats performance it’s the pressing and skill of the person pressing to know that individual piece of timber. Just wish that was more commonly known

There you go. ;)
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2022, 10:27:06 PM »

Grade of willow is totally irrelevant to a bats performance it’s the pressing and skill of the person pressing to know that individual piece of timber. Just wish that was more commonly known

Thank you.
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2022, 05:46:39 AM »

Grade of willow is totally irrelevant to a bats performance it’s the pressing and skill of the person pressing to know that individual piece of timber. Just wish that was more commonly known
I’d say ‘totally irrelavent’ is going a good chop too far.
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #42 on: May 30, 2022, 07:56:12 AM »

Yeah won't hard bars or different stains cause the ping of the bat to be different? These are also considered in the grading of a bat right
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #43 on: May 30, 2022, 08:42:55 AM »

Yeah won't hard bars or different stains cause the ping of the bat to be different? These are also considered in the grading of a bat right

Does this make the bat ping less or more in these areas?
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2022, 01:02:17 PM »

Having been to M&H recently, there was a helluva lot of unpressed, unshaped clefts in the workshop just to create the illusion of bat making
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