Topic: Eng vs SA test series 2022 (Read 9952 times)

ppccopener · « **Reply #15 on:** August 19, 2022, 12:58:12 PM »

Crawley fits the new management style, has Key as head honcho and looks fabulous in full flow.
The obvious issue is he just does not get enough scores and that�s usually what you are judged on. The ECB have invested in him-pretty sure he is still contracted.

Plus there�s no one bashing the door door to get picked.

The only suggestion I can think of is Sibley to return if Zak missed the next game.

Personally I think he may get the whole series

Thor Odin�s Son · « **Reply #16 on:** August 19, 2022, 02:06:18 PM »

Funny old game is cricket hey? Turns out blindly slogging isn�t really an option when there�s a big old chap winging it down at 150 clicks�

mo_town · « **Reply #17 on:** August 19, 2022, 02:51:14 PM »

For all the talk before the start of the series, this is pretty poor, losing by an innings!

Thor Odin�s Son · « **Reply #18 on:** August 19, 2022, 02:52:28 PM »

Imagine the opposition �only� scoring 326 and still losing by an innings...
Harry Brook in and the hopeless Ben Foakes out. Bairstow back to keeper.

Jimbo · « **Reply #19 on:** August 19, 2022, 03:01:27 PM »

Fix the openers first, Crawley out for starters. Pope has probably earned a decent run at 3 with some useful fifties but needs to show grit on a consistent basis. No use having a gun middle order if they're facing the new ball every other game.

Thor Odin�s Son · « **Reply #20 on:** August 19, 2022, 03:21:27 PM »

England need to sort out their bowling attack. When Ben Stokes on one leg is bowling quicker than the other three, it�s somewhat embarrassing.

Anderson is a one spell bowler.
Broad was rubbish and massaged his figures by getting two tailenders out.
Potts average.

If Robinson is fit he should be taking the new ball.

Jimbo · « **Reply #21 on:** August 19, 2022, 05:06:21 PM »

"If Robinson is fit" is a hell of an 'if'. Don't disagree though, he is absolutely quality when he's in the right shape to bowl.

I think Potts has plenty credit in the bank, just need to look at the wickets he's taken this summer to see he has the ability to get good players out.

It's a shame about all the injuries, Mahmood, Stone, Archer, JOverton would all be exciting seam bowling options.

Purist90 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 19, 2022, 05:31:10 PM »

I don�t think the bowling is that desperate to be radically changed.
SA top 6 only made 210 including a bloke getting 70. Rather lucky really.
Gave away 50-100 runs too many yes, but 326 in a test match is the minimum requirement really.
The England batting is just woeful. And it starts with the openers.
Everybody is having to do somebody else�s job. Whether it�s facing the new ball after 10 minutes or having to bowl a team out for 150. It�s too much pressure too often and they�re worn out mentally before they�ve even started.
I hope they use Pope as the tactic setting innings, stay in for an hour and just keep busy getting singles and the rest will gradually follow including the bowling changes.
(Sorry. Rant over)

jonny77 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 19, 2022, 05:31:14 PM »

Quote from: Thor Odin�s Son on August 19, 2022, 03:21:27 PM

England need to sort out their bowling attack. When Ben Stokes on one leg is bowling quicker than the other three, it�s somewhat embarrassing.

Anderson is a one spell bowler.
Broad was rubbish and massaged his figures by getting two tailenders out.
Potts average.

If Robinson is fit he should be taking the new ball.

Anyone would think pom bashing is a national pastime in Oz! 😂

Can't disagree with this performance tho, it was woeful.not sure this was 'Bazball' tho. It was England's problem which has been apparent for sometime, the inability to knuckle down in testing conditions against a very good attack. It wasn't slogging and getting out, it was just getting out!

Thor Odin�s Son · « **Reply #24 on:** August 19, 2022, 05:49:21 PM »

Quote from: jonny77 on August 19, 2022, 05:31:14 PM

Anyone would think pom bashing is a national pastime in Oz! 😂

Can't disagree with this performance tho, it was woeful.not sure this was 'Bazball' tho. It was England's problem which has been apparent for sometime, the inability to knuckle down in testing conditions against a very good attack. It wasn't slogging and getting out, it was just getting out!

Love kicking the Poms

Anyway joking aside.

It�s a relevant point

Slogging worked against New Zealand and India - because both side had decent attacks but lacked depth. Kiwis have two world class bowlers Boult and Jamieson. And the latter got injured. Southee and de Grandhomme are barely medium paced.
India�s fun bowlers are Bumrah and Shami. After than the drop off is substantial to the lesser seam bowlers.

South Africa�s attack has no such weakness. Rabada, Ngidi, Nortje, Jansen and Maharaj about as compete an attack as you can get.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #25 on:** August 19, 2022, 08:30:40 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on August 19, 2022, 12:58:12 PM

there�s no one bashing the door down to get picked.

Or even playing any cricket.

Thor Odin�s Son · « **Reply #26 on:** August 19, 2022, 09:07:15 PM »

Ben Compton
Daniel Bell-Drummond
Keaton Jennings
Haseeb Hameed

All openers as far as I�m aware, averaging above 50 in county championship. Any of those are more worthy than Rob Key�s son Zak Crawley.

Jimbo · « **Reply #27 on:** August 19, 2022, 10:10:33 PM »

Quote from: Thor Odin�s Son on August 19, 2022, 09:07:15 PM

Ben Compton
Daniel Bell-Drummond
Keaton Jennings
Haseeb Hameed

All openers as far as I�m aware, averaging above 50 in county championship. Any of those are more worthy than Rob Key�s son Zak Crawley.

Think Hameed could still use some time away from the England setup personally. They brought him back way too early last time round.

Compton looks worth a go but maybe not done it consistently enough yet.

Jennings is interesting given he's got international experience and has been in good nick.

DBD having a decent year, but IIRC he's perennially up and down.

adb club cricketer · « **Reply #28 on:** August 19, 2022, 10:15:43 PM »

Looks like so far Bazball came into play when Eng chased in 4th innings.. I could be wrong but have any of the previous 4 Eng victories come with Eng batting first?

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #29 on:** August 20, 2022, 01:03:49 AM »

Daniel Bell-Drummond bats at 3 for Kent.

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