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Re: Babar and Kane talking bats
« Reply #75 on: January 09, 2023, 01:58:41 PM »

In my opinion too stiff a handle and you risk shoulder splits (assuming thin shoulders).
Need a good balance.

I would argue the complete opposite tbh, I very frequently have rehandles in that are 5 spring or 12 pc handles (the whippiest handles currently on the market) although admittedly the handles were of poor quality, thin, and the shoulders were also thin, so I guess it's a combination of factors!

My main reasoning for thinking the opposite though is that flex above the splice causes torsion forces on the joint, which is why I would always try to mitigate this.
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Re: Babar and Kane talking bats
« Reply #76 on: January 09, 2023, 02:08:39 PM »

Getting very off topic again, but you reckon 12 piece are more flexible?
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Re: Babar and Kane talking bats
« Reply #77 on: January 09, 2023, 02:22:32 PM »

Getting very off topic again, but you reckon 12 piece are more flexible?

Generally, I find them to be more flexible due to having more joins within the handle and thinner bits of cane too. Also an issue with them nowadays as the cane is getting worse and worse in quality so the thinner cuts, combined with more joins mean you have to be careful with 12pc unless you have a reputable brand/supplier.

Jpgavan did a video on it a while back, had some good content in it.
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Re: Babar and Kane talking bats
« Reply #78 on: January 09, 2023, 02:37:52 PM »

Just wondered if there would be more flex in a single strip of cane, than in 2 (or 3) glued to each other.

More factors than just that in play as you say.
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Re: Babar and Kane talking bats
« Reply #79 on: January 09, 2023, 02:42:21 PM »

I would argue the complete opposite tbh, I very frequently have rehandles in that are 5 spring or 12 pc handles (the whippiest handles currently on the market) although admittedly the handles were of poor quality, thin, and the shoulders were also thin, so I guess it's a combination of factors!

My main reasoning for thinking the opposite though is that flex above the splice causes torsion forces on the joint, which is why I would always try to mitigate this.

The damage which you refer too, it as a result of "handle twist" arising from off centre shots over time, due to them being round and thin and overly flexible.
I suppose the question is which is the lesser of the two evils, a rehandle or a split shoulder.
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Re: Babar and Kane talking bats
« Reply #80 on: January 09, 2023, 03:04:11 PM »

The damage which you refer too, it as a result of "handle twist" arising from off centre shots over time, due to them being round and thin and overly flexible.
I suppose the question is which is the lesser of the two evils, a rehandle or a split shoulder.


Damage due to handles twisting too much often consist of both a split shoulder and a rehandle requirement. Although both different components of the bat, the nature of the join means they aren't really mutually exclusive with regards to damage. If you'd have to pick one, you'd probably pick for the handle to snap clean without any damage to the shoulder, but I'd imagine that's mostly down to a faulty/poorly made handle rather than anything else.
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