Topic: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022 (Read 15620 times)

ppccopener · « **Reply #165 on:** December 18, 2022, 08:09:31 PM »

We seem to have been catapulted into an era where the Captain and management do what they say,explain they are prepared to lose to win and back players like Jack Leach and Crawley. And I think they will continue to do that, they said Foakes is in their long term plans and is the best keeper in the world. Aside from that he has scored valuable runs.

It�s virtually impossible to imagine JB going back to open having been shoved all over the place and not having the defence to bat in the top three.

More likely might be Pope to move up maybe or Brook-a tough ask but if another opener would be picked exactly who would it be�

More likely is a seam dominated Ashes for both teams and perhaps one or two tests a spinner is needed.

Jacks in the Mo Ali role could also be an option at home.

Thamesvalley · « **Reply #166 on:** December 18, 2022, 08:15:45 PM »

Stick pope with Crawley and leave brook where he is

Root goes 3 and brook 4

jonny77 · « **Reply #167 on:** December 18, 2022, 08:17:19 PM »

The abv wasn't my side, it was how i thought they'd maybe go. Duckett has done well, but was he more a pick for this tour? I can't disagree he deserves a go and I know Bairstow for whatever reason isn't a CBF favourite, but he has to get in somewhere, as does Brook. Both imo are better players than Duckett but are either openers, that's the issue i suppose. Good problems to have.

Bairstow or Brook at five? I'm good with either, that's why personally if fit Bairstow would be my keeper at 7. Or even 6 with Stokes at 7. His keeping is good enough imo and it gives more flexibility to the side with the bowling.

Thamesvalley · « **Reply #168 on:** December 18, 2022, 08:27:37 PM »

I would not be surprised to se butler back in side soon as batsman and keeper

alba caerulea · « **Reply #169 on:** December 18, 2022, 08:28:56 PM »

Quote from: Thamesvalley on December 18, 2022, 08:27:37 PM

I would not be surprised to se butler back in side soon as batsman and keeper

Where will he bat? 13?

Thamesvalley · « **Reply #170 on:** December 18, 2022, 08:36:57 PM »

Duh

It takes one or two injuries and he�s back in ..

Jeez

alba caerulea · « **Reply #171 on:** December 18, 2022, 08:41:04 PM »

Quote from: Thamesvalley on December 18, 2022, 08:36:57 PM

Duh

It takes one or two injuries and he�s back in ..

Jeez

Considering he is white ball skipper and series now overlap I would suggest we have seen the last of Butler in whites for a while if not forever.

ppccopener · « **Reply #172 on:** December 18, 2022, 08:55:27 PM »

Totally agree, Butler has had loads of chances and will not be back.
As others have said we seem to have gone from who is good enough to play to we cannot get everyone in within a six month period.

Besides as a few of us have said in test match games Butler for Foakes as a batsman keeper does not improve the side. That�s without keeping in the equation.

I cannot see JB being asked to keep again either.

If everyone is fit it looks hard to get 11 in, which is quite something in under a year.

Slightly off subject but there is only one player not flourishing under the new regime and that is�.Root.

Maybe there is some hangover from the Captaincy, might take a bit longer for him.

jonny77 · « **Reply #173 on:** December 18, 2022, 09:02:01 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on December 18, 2022, 08:55:27 PM

Totally agree, Butler has had loads of chances and will not be back.
As others have said we seem to have gone from who is good enough to play to we cannot get everyone in within a six month period.

Besides as a few of us have said in test match games Butler for Foakes as a batsman keeper does not improve the side. That�s without keeping in the equation.

I cannot see JB being asked to keep again either.

If everyone is fit it looks hard to get 11 in, which is quite something in under a year.

Slightly off subject but there is only one player not flourishing under the new regime and that is�.Root.

Maybe there is some hangover from the Captaincy, might take a bit longer for him.

Think he's averaging 52.85 under Stokes, more than he did under Cook or when he was captain himself.

Jimbo · « **Reply #174 on:** December 18, 2022, 09:04:24 PM »

Didn't Root get 3 tons in 4 games in the summer under McCullum? One ropey tour doesn't mean he's not a fit for Bazball.

ppccopener · « **Reply #175 on:** December 18, 2022, 09:07:55 PM »

Yes very true he did start very well and one light tour does not make him less of a player.

Just looking at the way he has been playing I just wonder if there is any hangover from not being Captain

I guess we are used to him being our best on every tour

alba caerulea · « **Reply #176 on:** December 18, 2022, 09:19:01 PM »

Id love to not flourish and average 52.

Think the rest of the team has been doing so well that Root has kind of not been noticed. When he was the only bat performing it was very apparent he was head and shoulders above.

Ive been impressed with his bowling in the last 18 months or so, always seems to be tricky to face as a part timer

golders · « **Reply #177 on:** December 18, 2022, 09:38:24 PM »

Root hasn�t scored a ton in this series and therefore can�t play Bazball.

Let�s replace him with Vince shall we until Bairstow is fit.

Deary me. I�m not sure if Duckett was just picked as a horses for courses. I think they like him and he�s looked international quality during the T20�s and again during this series. We still have an opening bat who has played 30 tests and averages under 30�

jonny77 · « **Reply #178 on:** December 18, 2022, 09:49:59 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on December 18, 2022, 09:07:55 PM

Yes very true he did start very well and one light tour does not make him less of a player.

Just looking at the way he has been playing I just wonder if there is any hangover from not being Captain

I guess we are used to him being our best on every tour

I'd say he'd almost been reborn since giving up the captaincy. He looked class again last summer and has had a 70 odd from memory this tour too from his 5 knocks. Not sure I'm seeing what you are mate.

Jimbo · « **Reply #179 on:** December 18, 2022, 10:11:58 PM »

Think there's a fair point that because other bats have contributed Root hasn't stood out as he usually does. Still very much a key component of the side but it maybe doesn't hurt that he's not having to do it himself in terms of his longevity.

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