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Re: B3 cricket bat prices
« Reply #60 on: April 04, 2023, 11:52:12 AM »

Top top wood should attract top price lower shouldn’t simple.

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Re: B3 cricket bat prices
« Reply #61 on: April 04, 2023, 12:02:26 PM »

Top top wood should attract top price lower shouldn’t simple.

So a G1 cleft that cost Circa £100 can be sold for £500-£600 with say for arguments sake £100
Worth of labour and material costs
But a G3 that Circa cost of £55 with same labour/material costs can’t be sold for £320 given these make up roughly 40/50% off an order book

Sorry I just disagree with you on that point but I guess that’s what the forum is about, good respectful conversations and different views and thoughts
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Re: B3 cricket bat prices
« Reply #62 on: April 04, 2023, 12:07:01 PM »

Think just forum cynical thinking lol. From my understanding 10% of all willow clefts sold are G1 so that’s the top selection for me

What if there’s a bad year for willow, is something that wasn’t too 10% last year then g1 this year?
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Re: B3 cricket bat prices
« Reply #63 on: April 04, 2023, 01:37:33 PM »

Garrard are knocking out good looking bats from £100 to £200. If they can do it, I don't get how B3 can ask £330 for a grade 3. They will lose a number of customers asa result.
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Re: B3 cricket bat prices
« Reply #64 on: April 04, 2023, 01:47:00 PM »

Garrard are knocking out good looking bats from £100 to £200. If they can do it, I don't get how B3 can ask £330 for a grade 3. They will lose a number of customers asa result.

Aren't their bats in this price range sub Grade? Can't see how it would be sustainable on normal clefts
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« Reply #65 on: April 04, 2023, 02:11:54 PM »

Garrard are knocking out good looking bats from £100 to £200. If they can do it, I don't get how B3 can ask £330 for a grade 3. They will lose a number of customers asa result.

He just has himself and a home workshop,  B3 have a premises, sponsored players and multiple staff on the payroll to consider is the reason I would suggest
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Re: B3 cricket bat prices
« Reply #66 on: April 04, 2023, 02:35:27 PM »

They're sub bats. Clearly states in the description....

https://garrardcricket.com/products/workshop-stock-collection-2lb9-9oz-2?_pos=1&_sid=39d80c79e&_ss=r

Funnily enough, this seems to be the same bat listed on eBay for £175 with no mention of any defects, which seemingly sold on Garrards site for £100 🤔 I could be wrong, but seems the same one.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225473329336?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=AK8rbvdlTia&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=phkDW9d0TMq&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

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Re: B3 cricket bat prices
« Reply #67 on: April 04, 2023, 03:01:23 PM »

Even the non-sub grades are pretty reasonably priced up to G2. But as pointed out, Ed doesn't sponsor big names, doesn't have a factory and doesn't rely on batmaking for his sole income.
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Re: B3 cricket bat prices
« Reply #68 on: April 04, 2023, 03:37:58 PM »

Even the non-sub grades are pretty reasonably priced up to G2. But as pointed out, Ed doesn't sponsor big names, doesn't have a factory and doesn't rely on batmaking for his sole income.

Yes, not all bats sold direct by Garrard are sub-grades and the prices vary accordingly but still nevertheless good value.
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Re: B3 cricket bat prices
« Reply #69 on: April 04, 2023, 09:27:25 PM »

If willow (wood) is so expensive, then why use it ?

At the lower levels, also at the non-pro club levels, it should be perfectly legal to use bats made from synthetic/non-wood materials. Most players will not play at the pro/international level. Why let cost-prohibitive equipment restrict fans from enjoying a good weekend game when all these weekend warriors want is some cricketing fun. Non-wood/synthetic bats would be cheaper, durable, and require no maintenance like oiling/sanding etc.

I just don't see how grass roots level cricket survives if prices keep rising. Granted inflation is rampant and pretty much everywhere, people/kids will switch to more cost-effective means of sporting activities or at least those with more fun/entertainment for their money. Let's face it, not everyone has a good cricket day in the field every weekend.

Also, this nonsense with "English" willow being better than any other willow serves only one company. We all know who they are and how they monopolize the cricket bat market. Either get more willow suppliers (bring costs down) or look for alternative materials.

I haven't bought bats in a few years but I am glad I stocked up when I did. :D
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Re: B3 cricket bat prices
« Reply #70 on: April 04, 2023, 10:14:53 PM »

Garrard are knocking out good looking bats from £100 to £200. If they can do it, I don't get how B3 can ask £330 for a grade 3. They will lose a number of customers asa result.

I have switched from using B3 to Garrard for this reason. Both make excellent bays but one charges considerably more for a product of no better quality
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Re: B3 cricket bat prices
« Reply #71 on: April 04, 2023, 11:37:20 PM »

B3 does seem to be a bit of a w***** magnet.
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Re: B3 cricket bat prices
« Reply #72 on: April 05, 2023, 11:57:47 AM »

Overheads and other running costs sound like a problem for the businesses to solve rather than for the consumer to deal with.

I dont care if my bat is made in a million pound factory or a spare boxroom - it is judged on the factors below.

- prices
- quality of product
- customer service

Ive been using smaller companies for quite some time now and actually find not only the price cheaper for equivalent product but product quality better. Customer service seems to vary but certainly more likely to get any sort of personal service from a smaller maker aswell. These are the only 3 factors I consider when bat shopping

Really for anyone in the know its a no brainer to use a smaller company/maker.

The above doesn't necessarily apply to collectors more to users of bats

My recent post with 2 buys from smaller brands (assuming h4l are still small?) for under the price of a G3 from B3 shows that there is plenty of value to be had
« Last Edit: April 05, 2023, 12:03:04 PM by alba caerulea »
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Re: B3 cricket bat prices
« Reply #73 on: April 05, 2023, 01:12:24 PM »

The original poster asked for the best value for money.

It may be that the traditional large brand with the non pro game gap becomes larger

In effect you have a dual market expanding. I suspect myself this gap will only get wider
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Re: B3 cricket bat prices
« Reply #74 on: April 05, 2023, 01:25:33 PM »

The original poster asked for the best value for money.

It may be that the traditional large brand with the non pro game gap becomes larger

In effect you have a dual market expanding. I suspect myself this gap will only get wider

That's good, isn't it? This board was set up to support independent batmakers.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2023, 02:06:15 PM by Bats_Entertainment »
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