Topic: B3 cricket bat prices (Read 12252 times)

jonny77 · « **Reply #45 on:** April 04, 2023, 11:00:03 AM »

In some cases it is mate I agree. As I said, generally for me it has to be pretty perfect for me to sell it as a G1+, but I see some which aren't great at all. So maybe the point isn't should G1+ exist, but what is acceptable as G1+. As with anything, some will be fair and others not so much.

Kulli · « **Reply #46 on:** April 04, 2023, 11:11:16 AM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on April 04, 2023, 10:22:44 AM

But again what is a G1++

The talk is supply and demand creates this. Well this has been created by companies, advertising a grade that in reality doesn�t exist.

None of the grades really exist if that�s the logic tbh.

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #47 on:** April 04, 2023, 11:12:32 AM »

Quote from: jonny77 on April 04, 2023, 11:00:03 AM

In some cases it is mate I agree. As I said, generally for me it has to be pretty perfect for me to sell it as a G1+, but I see some which aren't great at all. So maybe the point isn't should G1+ exist, but what is acceptable as G1+. As with anything, some will be fair and others not so much.

Well said mate a great counter argument and valid point

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #48 on:** April 04, 2023, 11:13:32 AM »

Quote from: Kulli on April 04, 2023, 11:11:16 AM

None of the grades really exist if that�s the logic tbh.

Sorry! Willow is sold in grades 1,2,3, and 4 so what logic are you questioning??

Kulli · « **Reply #49 on:** April 04, 2023, 11:18:47 AM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on April 04, 2023, 11:13:32 AM

Sorry! Willow is sold in grades 1,2,3, and 4 so what logic are you questioning??

But those are just created by a different companies sales dept. And can be argued against with the exact same reasoning.

procricket · « **Reply #50 on:** April 04, 2023, 11:21:07 AM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on April 04, 2023, 11:13:32 AM

Sorry! Willow is sold in grades 1,2,3, and 4 so what logic are you questioning??

Not entirely true mate Ruggles does extra specials too I once took delivery of a box of them. They may or may not be open to most people but that was 5/6 years ago.

Better customer you are the more chance you have of getting them

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #51 on:** April 04, 2023, 11:27:38 AM »

Quote from: Kulli on April 04, 2023, 11:18:47 AM

But those are just created by a different companies sales dept. And can be argued against with the exact same reasoning.

No they are not. If you go to JS wrights and are able to get a willow merchant account you will buy your clefts in Grades 1,2,3 and 4 and those only in the main. You will then need to order X amount of one grade to get Y amount of higher grades.

Companies sales department can call them what ever but the main point I�m making is willow is only really bought in 4 grades and so should he sold in those same grades. That�s my opinion anyway

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #52 on:** April 04, 2023, 11:29:07 AM »

Quote from: procricket on April 04, 2023, 11:21:07 AM

Not entirely true mate Ruggles does extra specials too I once took delivery of a box of them. They may or may not be open to most people but that was 5/6 years ago.

Better customer you are the more chance you have of getting them

By and large it�s true. Yes established or top clients may get some top end or special in some way deal. That�s just business and happens in my 9-5 world on a family basis to our top clients but as a general rule it�s the case

edge · « **Reply #53 on:** April 04, 2023, 11:29:33 AM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on April 04, 2023, 11:27:38 AM

No they are not. If you go to JS wrights and are able to get a willow merchant account you will buy your clefts in Grades 1,2,3 and 4 and those only in the main. You will then need to order X amount of one grade to get Y amount of higher grades.

Companies sales department can call them what ever but the main point I�m making is willow is only really bought in 4 grades and so should he sold in those same grades. That�s my opinion anyway

What about the JS Wright sales department?

I don't like G1+ as I think it's a bit dishonest in origin, but having a top selection is in itself perfectly reasonable.

Kulli · « **Reply #54 on:** April 04, 2023, 11:35:34 AM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on April 04, 2023, 11:27:38 AM

No they are not. If you go to JS wrights and are able to get a willow merchant account you will buy your clefts in Grades 1,2,3 and 4 and those only in the main. You will then need to order X amount of one grade to get Y amount of higher grades.

Companies sales department can call them what ever but the main point I�m making is willow is only really bought in 4 grades and so should he sold in those same grades. That�s my opinion anyway

But why should Wrights decide that? They�re not a bat maker. They even state themselves:

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It is up to the individual bat maker what grade of bat the blades that leave our factory make, some even take into account the way the bat bounces off the finished bat to decide what grade of bat they will sell it as.

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We have many other Grades which have been developed over the years to satisfy the different demands from all the different markets across the world.

But even so, I fail to see why how a seller of clefts should define what grades the final bats should be sold under. wrights done even see the planes faces when the grade, and given the number of clefts they grade I can�t imagine a huge deal of time goes into assessing each one.

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #55 on:** April 04, 2023, 11:42:00 AM »

Quote from: edge on April 04, 2023, 11:29:33 AM

What about the JS Wright sales department?

I don't like G1+ as I think it's a bit dishonest in origin, but having a top selection is in itself perfectly reasonable.

Think just forum cynical thinking lol. From my understanding 10% of all willow clefts sold are G1 so that�s the top selection for me

procricket · « **Reply #56 on:** April 04, 2023, 11:43:45 AM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on April 04, 2023, 11:29:07 AM

By and large it�s true. Yes established or top clients may get some top end or special in some way deal. That�s just business and happens in my 9-5 world on a family basis to our top clients but as a general rule it�s the case

So g1 plus does exists then lighter and better looking also a Pakistan legend and his agent rocked up with 6 of them they got direct.

I guarantee if you had access to this quality you would want a premium for it or keep it for your own.

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #57 on:** April 04, 2023, 11:44:07 AM »

Quote from: Kulli on April 04, 2023, 11:35:34 AM

But why should Wrights decide that? They�re not a bat maker. They even state themselves:

And:

But even so, I fail to see why how a seller of clefts should define what grades the final bats should be sold under. wrights done even see the planes faces when the grade, and given the number of clefts they grade I can�t imagine a huge deal of time goes into assessing each one.

Look it�s just my view. Ok so if it�s not the supplier of 75% of the worlds willow that set the guideline then who shall we ask, maybe the tree!! Flippant comment but you have to start somewhere.

Look if you like and support a G1+ grade and you�re happy to pay �100-�200 more for that than good on you mate your money just for me doesn�t sit well.

procricket · « **Reply #58 on:** April 04, 2023, 11:44:37 AM »

I have no issue with getting light and best looking and paying big for them they are rare but I�m they don�t always make the best bats

This is my final post on the topic my theory is B3 can supply you with extra special you will get what a pro gets and often better you get the best ruggles has at the top end and pay top end money they are almost unique in this

I don�t agree on the price of g3 but that�s my option they can and do offer a pro bat and as I said the best wood at a price

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #59 on:** April 04, 2023, 11:47:02 AM »

Quote from: procricket on April 04, 2023, 11:43:45 AM

So g1 plus does exists then lighter and better looking also a Pakistan legend and his agent rocked up with 6 of them they got direct.

We could go all day. If in your mind G1+ is acceptable and you�re happy to pay the premium for it than fine but in my mind no the grade doesn�t exist. The international legend that rocked up with 6 very nice G1 clefts I would expect as he is at the top of his game and may demand the top of willow in terms of grains or appearance if that�s what he requires in his bats

But by the same logic you can�t knock B3 for charging what they choose to charge for a G3 surely??

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