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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #525 on: July 12, 2023, 01:14:30 PM »

I expect Foakes will be called for India so he misses the biggest series against the Aussies. Flipper the seal continues and I understand loyalty but where is it for Ben.

It’s a good job Rehan has not played yet because keeping standing back is straightforward for a pro bit standing up when it turns is a different game altogether.

Before anyone posts Bairstow haters on again he should be in the team as a batsman. He’s got some credit in the bank for sure
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #526 on: July 12, 2023, 04:52:17 PM »

They were back in stock Friday on the ECB site, they weren’t on there long. You need to check daily.
Managed to get one and they are going for silly prices on eBay.

Bucket hat delivered and they are literally using Beechfield blank £4 bucket hats, embroidering the England logo and sticking a Castore swing card on them.  You can even see where they have ripped the Beechfield tag out the inside.

Decent mark up for £25 a pop.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #527 on: July 12, 2023, 06:42:44 PM »

Another excellent win for the women
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #528 on: July 12, 2023, 06:51:45 PM »

Thought they'd chucked it when Ecclestone threw her wicket away, what a knock from Cross.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #529 on: July 12, 2023, 07:18:20 PM »

Bucket hat delivered and they are literally using Beechfield blank £4 bucket hats, embroidering the England logo and sticking a Castore swing card on them.  You can even see where they have ripped the Beechfield tag out the inside.

Decent mark up for £25 a pop.

Cheaper than that bought in volume for sure. They're not bad caps tho tbf. Is imagine they've been caught out but demand and are backfilling with anything they can get quickly
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #530 on: July 17, 2023, 08:42:54 AM »

England XI for OT - One change with Anderson in for Robinson
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #531 on: July 17, 2023, 10:34:13 AM »

Mo confirmed batting 3. Not ideal but short term think that was the only option. Brook needs to settle in to a role at 5.

I just hope we take our chances this match.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #532 on: July 17, 2023, 01:06:52 PM »

Woakes would be a better option at 3 than Mo in my view.

But the reality is it makes sense for these last two games with Stokes not really able to bowl.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #533 on: July 17, 2023, 05:47:35 PM »

I'm not sure about that. Bairstow should have been at 3, putting Moeen there is brave at best. At least YJB is a proper recognized batsman.
Obviously I want Foakes in if Bairstow is at 3 but he is busy being messed around by the England management as always.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #534 on: July 17, 2023, 05:51:00 PM »

Woakes would be a better option at 3 than Mo in my view.

But the reality is it makes sense for these last two games with Stokes not really able to bowl.

Woakes would seem far too vulnerable against the short ball up at 3 for me. He looks far from comfortable sometimes against the quick, short stuff. Shows the value of a true allrounder. If Stokes could bowl some serious overs it would balance the side much better.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #535 on: July 17, 2023, 06:55:21 PM »

Mo will have the same problem with the short stuff that’s why he’s not a top order player at this level so England are a bit goosed either way.

Bairstow at 3 plus keeping looks a tall order, he just does not have a tight enough game.

But you are right Stokes bowling is sooo key to getting an extra player in.

As soon as he knew bowling was going to be tough Foakes was ruled out of the series and he said himself they are picking a side based on him not bowling.

Despite all the above it could be 2-1 to us not to them if we had taken the chances we created. But they are up and we desperately need a win at OT.

I am backing Anderson to play a blinder on what will be his last Ashes at home.

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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #536 on: July 17, 2023, 07:09:24 PM »

Why is it people always say so and so can't play the short ball.
There is no evidence that Woakes can't play the short ball.
People said the same about Foakes. Also nonsense.

Bairstow can't keep and bat three. A full fit and in form and not keeping Bairstow isn't really a number 3.

So someone has to put their hand up.

Root... Needs protection a bit as Cummins has his number at the moment.
Brook... Maybe one day, but not yet.
Stokes... Seems reluctant, but could do it, I think.
Mo... Has been handed the job.
Woakes... Probably too high for him, but I think he will score more runs at 3 than Mo.
Wood... Yes. The real Bazball choice.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #537 on: July 17, 2023, 07:15:49 PM »

I've said it before - dayhawk!
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #538 on: July 17, 2023, 07:54:51 PM »

Why is it people always say so and so can't play the short ball.
There is no evidence that Woakes can't play the short ball.
People said the same about Foakes. Also nonsense.

Bairstow can't keep and bat three. A full fit and in form and not keeping Bairstow isn't really a number 3.

So someone has to put their hand up.

Root... Needs protection a bit as Cummins has his number at the moment.
Brook... Maybe one day, but not yet.
Stokes... Seems reluctant, but could do it, I think.
Mo... Has been handed the job.
Woakes... Probably too high for him, but I think he will score more runs at 3 than Mo.
Wood... Yes. The real Bazball choice.

Stokes can hardly walk so can’t bat three. Also vulnerable against the short ball
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #539 on: July 17, 2023, 08:20:14 PM »

Mo for 3.
There is no suitable choice but I dont think batting 3 will mess with his head. If he fails it wont impact is bowling or his test future, as he has none. I admire that he is happy to take one for the team. Best 'sacrifice' someone if it means Root and Brook are not worrying about stuff and play up to standard. Now and for the next 5 years.
Sounds crazy re a Test No.3 but its where we are.
 
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