Topic: Etsy custom bat order (Read 8874 times)

Neon Cricket · « **Reply #75 on:** November 29, 2023, 09:05:10 AM »

Quote from: The Cricket Boutique on November 28, 2023, 03:35:35 PM

Its why I don't understand the Black Friday sales approach of flogging off bats at 30-50% off of RRP which is often below cost. They wont go off so to speak and with willow prices doubling people will be trying to get hold of bats at a reasonable budget.

People expecting further money off already discounted products is what will cripple the industry as overheads are up and they rely on margins to keep the lights on, they'll then be saying were ripping them off when having to sell a G1 bat at �400+ as the last one they bought 3 years ago only cost �200!

Completely agree - unless companies are needing a quick cashflow boost I'm never going to understand discounting current bat ranges. Ultimately, like you say, a bat isn't going to 'go off' and at the current rate of willow increases they're only going to go up in value (I've got another 200 odd bats en-route at the moment for a reason!). The only time I'll ever do any sort of sale through Neon is just clearing out old lines to make more space in the unit, and I tend to keep it all to newsletter subscribers as opposed to shouting about it on socials. Pretty much always just softs, and on rare occasion the odd bat if I've used one for imagery/content and wouldn't then sell it as new.

All fun and games anyway, will keep on plugging away as I have for the last decade - could be worth all the effort one day!

The Cricket Boutique · « **Reply #76 on:** November 29, 2023, 09:44:02 AM »

Couldn�t agree more mate, having seen multiple brands come and go over the last 20 years I�ve been in the industry it always amazes me how such big discounts are offered compared to other sports!

I�d rather offer additional stuff with a sale of a product as I did last year with free hybrid/socks/cap/bobble if someone purchases something.

A small discount is fine but 30%+ is madness!

drmimran · « **Reply #77 on:** November 29, 2023, 07:39:13 PM »

Hey all

I wanted to thank everyone for their replies. A little bit of context for you all - I have not played cricket since 2010. I went off to uni then and have just not had the time until now. I actually bought new softs and a g1 bat back then to continue playing at uni. The softs have been freshly packaged for the past 13 years but the bat was left out in the shed where the damp and the moisture got to it and it all swelled up. Ended up chucking it away without playing a single ball! Back then �300 would get you a top of the range bat so you can imagine my shock when G1 bats have literally double in price! I contacted the seller about changing the order but he said he sent it off with the courier yesterday. When the bats arrive I will take some more photos and make a video. I would like your advice on what to do in terms of sending them back if they are indeed too good to be true!

procricket · « **Reply #78 on:** November 29, 2023, 07:59:25 PM »

Don�t be put off see what comes make your own mind up too mate if you like em keep em use em !

Bat prices and willow barons there a book to be written.

Makers without overheads vs makers with

Willow growers v willow sellers

Sticker brand operations v artisan

Yes

Yorkershire · « **Reply #79 on:** November 29, 2023, 11:58:44 PM »

Lots of opinions on here and can easily be swayed..

Agree with @procricket if you like them and they ping, then that's what matters... else move them on and buy else where..

You won't be the first to move on perfectly usable brand new bats on here, and certainly not the
last...

Just another day as a CBF forum member

Six Sixes Cricket · « **Reply #80 on:** December 01, 2023, 02:55:43 PM »

Quote from: Thamesvalley on November 28, 2023, 10:10:09 PM

They grow their own willow don�t they ?

Have they had big increases from 21 onwards ?

GN have kept the same prices for the last 2 years. Gm increased 7.5% this year.
Also GN & Gm have there own willow supplies.
Wrights are now competing against the likes of GN & GM for willow trees, with the growers getting a better price per tree than they were getting previously.

Thamesvalley · « **Reply #81 on:** December 01, 2023, 07:44:31 PM »

GM seems somewhat reasonable versus 30 percent elsewhere

ppccopener · « **Reply #82 on:** December 01, 2023, 08:32:53 PM »

Just wondering�.without going too far off topic the mention of willow merchants on here�.

I know what they do just asking if they are or can be UK based. The reason I mention it is with our market there�s only a few that grow willow, excluding GN and GM. So you would imagine there�s a close relationship between UK batmakers and the growers of willow trees.

My perception of that relationship is that is an established one. So those who buy willow just to sell it on would have limited success in the UK.

I could however be totally wrong

jonny77 · « **Reply #83 on:** December 02, 2023, 12:00:23 AM »

There are many willow merchants in the Uk, but more willow growers. GM, GN and others (including Wrights) will buy trees from landowners who have willow trees on their land. They'll also plant willow trees on landowners land, with a promise of a buy back when they mature. This is an ongoing process, which has already been going on for ages. Hence the constant supply. The demand is outstripping supply currently, hence the fight for willow and increase in price. Nobody just solely has fields of willow of their own, where they just have a revolving supply of willow and can therefore dictate the market.

willmau5 · « **Reply #84 on:** December 02, 2023, 09:20:06 AM »

Quote from: jonny77 on December 02, 2023, 12:00:23 AM

There are many willow merchants in the Uk, but more willow growers. GM, GN and others (including Wrights) will buy trees from landowners who have willow trees on their land. They'll also plant willow trees on landowners land, with a promise of a buy back when they mature. This is an ongoing process, which has already been going on for ages. Hence the constant supply. The demand is outstripping supply currently, hence the fight for willow and increase in price. Nobody just solely has fields of willow of their own, where they just have a revolving supply of willow and can therefore dictate the market.

I was in a meeting a few weeks ago where representatives from the Woodland Trust were talking about carbon-friendly farming and planting tree based cash crops as hedging or field edging. As well as fruit and nut trees they specifically called out cricket bat willow as one of the most profitable trees to plant, with a carbon value as well as a crop value. So maybe this means in 20 years' time we have a better supply of willow from a wider range of suppliers and the price drops accordingly. Until then though...

drmimran · « **Reply #85 on:** December 12, 2023, 03:35:13 AM »

Hey everyone. Thank you for your responses. The bats arrived last week and I have been wanting to put up images and a video but the website has been down. Was anyone else getting the server limit error or just me? Anyhow here are the bats. I made a video and took some photos in question. Please let me know what you guys think!

I personally think the workmanship is not the best. There seem to be voids where the handle fits the bat that look to have been filled in! Is it just me of does the handle itself looks have really thin rubber stripes? Too thin? Apart from that I think I was expecting the ping to be better. Please check the video links, they are only short. I was expecting the ball to bounce higher! I asked for one bat with a mid middle and another for a low middle for our low bouncing pitches. What grade would you put this willow at? I know both have the fibreglass sheets but I am keen to hear your insights!

BAT 1

https://youtube.com/shorts/EqlHmJkHzVA

drmimran · « **Reply #86 on:** December 12, 2023, 03:38:20 AM »

BAT 2

https://youtube.com/shorts/Mo-rpY4MhBc?feature=share

jonny77 · « **Reply #87 on:** December 12, 2023, 07:57:47 AM »

Ping tests like the video (although I've done them myself on socials etc) are pretty pointless. You can make a ball hit the ceiling off a piece of plywood. I feel that gently tapping a mallet gives me a better feel on the response, but playing with it is there only way of truly knowing if you're 100% happy with it and it will need playing in. Are there any indentations if you hit with a mallet? Does the mallet respond well?

In terms of the handle, I wouldn't expect this to be the greatest quality. These bats are made to a price point and I wouldn't have thought a handle is a consideration for many buying them, with a decision based more on price v's reported grade of willow. Although it's obviously to tell from pictures obviously. Be interesting to get it in a vice to see how much twist / flex there is and to take the binding up to see if there's anything lurking under there. The filled in parts could maybe just be where the willow has splintered slightly when cutting the splice, so maybe just superficial. This shouldn't t cause an issue in my experience.

Do they weigh as requested?

May as well use them and see how they go mate. You might like them!

Thamesvalley · « **Reply #88 on:** December 12, 2023, 11:26:29 AM »

Agree ping tests are useless

My best bat doesn�t ping extraordinarily on a ball bounce test

In a match situation the ball ping is remarkable � it�s like a trampoline , based on a ping test it would seem average

willmau5 · « **Reply #89 on:** December 12, 2023, 06:38:55 PM »

Thanks for sharing the photos, I'm glad your bats arrived.

For me, if I were to see them in the store I'd probably pass on them due to the handles - a personal preference thing I guess. But if you like them, they pick up how you want and perform how you expected then you should be happy.

Good luck with them, let us know what you think when you've had a net.

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