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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2023, 10:41:48 AM »

From my understanding the likes of b3/h4l keleey for a custom g1 would charge 500 upwards

A lot of dough …
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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2023, 10:52:32 AM »

Or two custom G3s for roughly three same money 👀 Which will still perform as well and will genuinely be made to exacting requirements in terms of profile, weight, handle shape etc etc.

A great idea. Time for me to find £400 behind the sofa for a couple of Scotts!
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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2023, 11:39:51 AM »

From my understanding the likes of b3/h4l keleey for a custom g1 would charge 500 upwards

A lot of dough …

Which makes these kind of offers even more suspect. Grade 1 wllow has a premium because it's still in demand and isn't as readily available. Supply and demand dictates price generally. Add to that many people who are going custom expect to the mm accurate specs and no doubt a gauge filler at 2lbs 9oz (don't get me started 😂)  and that price is justified imo. You'd be surprised at the amount of the and effort goes into a custom order sometimes. Endless messages back and forth, discussion on Clefts etc. Surely that should come at a premium?
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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2023, 11:49:54 AM »

Yes perhaps you’re right
It may be about 600 though with these companies

I am not sure if each of these companies do custom at lower grades therefore a lower price .
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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2023, 12:57:21 PM »

Yes perhaps you’re right
It may be about 600 though with these companies

I am not sure if each of these companies do custom at lower grades therefore a lower price .

With B3 the custom aspect is something they charge for, but I've had customisation on lower grades from H4L in the past without additional charge, although bearing in mind it was relatively minor customisations rather than a totally bespoke shape.

If that's something you're interested in with H4L then I can thoroughly recommend ordering via @The Cricket Boutique
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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2023, 01:40:49 PM »

I think most bat makers would provide a custom service on any grade, but if that was the case as a customer I'd expect to pay more depending on the level of custom experience. If you're selecting clefts, giving instructions on edge size, toe size, splice thickness, handle thickness/shape, toe shape, number of grains, Heartwood no Heartwood etc etc, then should that be charged at the same price as an OTS option? Pretty sure a bespoke, tailor made suit would cost more than one from River Island.

You'd be amazed (or maybe not) at the expectations, demands/requests you get for custom orders. I had someone recently message me to ask if I had any Black Friday deals on. When I asked what he is was looking for (expecting a discount on stock bat I had in, or gloves, pads etc), he asked me for a fully custom made shape, at 2lbs 9oz which maxed out the gauge and had very specific requirements on specs. Wanted it a lower grade though as didn't want to pay top grade prices.....and even then it wanted a discount.on that! Honestly, sometimes I feel I'm being trolled! 😂
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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2023, 01:44:31 PM »

Sorry @jonny77 I really don't understand what the issue is. You shouldn't be charging more than £130 for a bat like that.
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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2023, 01:46:23 PM »

I think most bat makers would provide a custom service on any grade, but if that was the case as a customer I'd expect to pay more depending on the level of custom experience. If you're selecting clefts, giving instructions on edge size, toe size, splice thickness, handle thickness/shape, toe shape, number of grains, Heartwood no Heartwood etc etc, then should that be charged at the same price as an OTS option? Pretty sure a bespoke, tailor made suit would cost more than one from River Island.

You'd be amazed (or maybe not) at the expectations, demands/requests you get for custom orders. I had someone recently message me to ask if I had any Black Friday deals on. When I asked what he is was looking for (expecting a discount on stock bat I had in, or gloves, pads etc), he asked me for a fully custom made shape, at 2lbs 9oz which maxed out the gauge and had very specific requirements on specs. Wanted it a lower grade though as didn't want to pay top grade prices.....and even then it wanted a discount.on that! Honestly, sometimes I feel I'm being trolled! 😂


Lol that sounds like someone taking mick

Guessing it didn’t progress ?
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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2023, 01:56:03 PM »

I think most bat makers would provide a custom service on any grade, but if that was the case as a customer I'd expect to pay more depending on the level of custom experience. If you're selecting clefts, giving instructions on edge size, toe size, splice thickness, handle thickness/shape, toe shape, number of grains, Heartwood no Heartwood etc etc, then should that be charged at the same price as an OTS option? Pretty sure a bespoke, tailor made suit would cost more than one from River Island.

You'd be amazed (or maybe not) at the expectations, demands/requests you get for custom orders. I had someone recently message me to ask if I had any Black Friday deals on. When I asked what he is was looking for (expecting a discount on stock bat I had in, or gloves, pads etc), he asked me for a fully custom made shape, at 2lbs 9oz which maxed out the gauge and had very specific requirements on specs. Wanted it a lower grade though as didn't want to pay top grade prices.....and even then it wanted a discount.on that! Honestly, sometimes I feel I'm being trolled! 😂

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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2023, 01:59:14 PM »

@Buzz 😂 I wish I had enough of that willow to keep knocking them out like that mate. It's the expectation now though unfortunately with a lot of people and it's just how they've been conditioned to think, so not really the customers fault essentially. But then its also part of the reason prices on such bats are now so high. They're rare, but in demand. So the more big bats are championed, the more expensive they'll become. We're all adding (or most are) to the problem imo, some just won't admit it.

The funny thing with this one was he didn't seem to understand that nobody would really offer something like that at a heavy discount on a Black Friday deal, even if they could make it! I might start a thread 😆

@Thamesvalley No, I told him I couldn't help. We'd been there many times with unrealistic spec lists (one actual request was.....2lbs 9oz, 30mm toe, 35mm toe centre, 25mm shoulders, 40mm edge, 67mm spine, 50mm through the splice with no concaving).

@Kulli that saying was probably invented by the customer above! 😆
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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2023, 02:49:21 PM »

I’m sure now they person was taking the mick .. never heard such rediculous specs
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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2023, 03:13:31 PM »

Rumours afoot Willow has gone up by another 30% again so expect bat prices to keep rising!

For ref I can't even buy a bat at a trade price below £200 now from reputable brands and that is without even factoring in VAT on them.

H4L will be £415 for their G1 offering which is still amazing value IMO for a 100% UK-made bat from a very talented batmaker, for a custom made Pro grade you're looking at £600 but when you take into consideration some OTS bats are now north of £750 its reasonable cost to get a top grade bat made to your specs.
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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2023, 03:19:27 PM »

I’m sure now they person was taking the mick .. never heard such rediculous specs

You'd be surprised mate. I honestly don't think he was, it is was a serious request and not the only one. Imo, requesting 'specs' in terms of toe thickness, shoulder thickness and splice depth is pointless anyway
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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2023, 03:21:21 PM »

I can understand shoulder thickness but never heard of 25mm 15mm to 18mm is nice and thicker does help pick up …

25mm along with everything else sounds bizarre

The shoulder thickness not all will agree and that’s fine
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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2023, 03:23:15 PM »

Rumours afoot Willow has gone up by another 30% again so expect bat prices to keep rising!

For ref I can't even buy a bat at a trade price below £200 now from reputable brands and that is without even factoring in VAT on them.

H4L will be £415 for their G1 offering which is still amazing value IMO for a 100% UK-made bat from a very talented batmaker, for a custom made Pro grade you're looking at £600 but when you take into consideration some OTS bats are now north of £750 its reasonable cost to get a top grade bat made to your specs.

30 percent is that soon ? When Gn and Gm announce their prices are they fixed for one year ?
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