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Thor Odin’s Son

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Re: England v india
« Reply #120 on: February 26, 2024, 08:42:10 AM »
Quote from: Jimbo on February 26, 2024, 08:20:03 AM
Sorry but crap players don't score 196 against two of India's greatest ever bowlers. Pope is hugely inconsistent but he isn't crap.
Cope and seethe

Ollie Pope 16 innings in India
1 fluke innings scored 196
15 other innings averages 16

Shows how poor the CC is when this stiff has been gifted 42 test caps
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Re: England v india
« Reply #121 on: February 26, 2024, 08:44:26 AM »
Quote from: jonny77 on February 26, 2024, 08:31:41 AM
🤔 Hmmmmmm, do we bite? Ok then.

Yeah so with a rookie spin attack, Stokes has marshalled them into winning a test in India and into positions they should have taken advantage of and been level in the series going into the final test. They haven't and need to learn from that. I'd still say that's a success by and large.

They've also done it playing a better style of cricket in the main. They're a work in progress, nobody was claiming they're the finished article but as an England fan, I'm happy with how they're moving forward from where we were.

“Inexperienced attack” lmaooo

India were missing Kohli, Pant, Rahul(he was the replacement for both) and Shami

Hit and hoping with Stokes yielded the same results as Root’s captaincy

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Re: England v india
« Reply #122 on: February 26, 2024, 09:01:40 AM »
Quote from: Thor Odin’s Son on February 26, 2024, 08:44:26 AM
“Inexperienced attack” lmaooo

India were missing Kohli, Pant, Rahul(he was the replacement for both) and Shami

Hit and hoping with Stokes yielded the same results as Root’s captaincy

Now I know you're fishing mate 😂
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Re: England v india
« Reply #123 on: February 26, 2024, 09:53:35 AM »
Good win for India. Great turnaround.

Must be said, Bashir's selection was just brilliant. We have seen so many seasoned spinners get exposed in India but the way he has bowled long spells and got wickets is impressive.
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Re: England v india
« Reply #124 on: February 26, 2024, 10:23:12 AM »
Great for Bash and Hartley to experience this and to perform as well as they have.

However, we lost this series due to the batting and seasoned pros not standing up - JB, Stokes and Foakes all averaging 20's and I would say Root not at his best until this test.

Shame for the young spinners as they've not really had the runs to work with. However, it's been a stronger performance from england than I expected.

India deservedly in front, but some hope for the future.

Let's go mental for the last test -

Wood and Atkinson in, Lawrence in for JB, Foakes bats at 3 and Pope keeps :)
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Re: England v india
« Reply #125 on: February 26, 2024, 10:55:21 AM »
This series will go down as the one which unearthed lots of talents. Jaiswal, Sarfaraz, Jurel, Bashir, Hartley.

Also it was good to see Root play a Root-like innings and put all the silly shots away. Classic cricket still has a place in Bazball.
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Re: England v india
« Reply #126 on: February 26, 2024, 11:19:22 AM »
Hartley is unlikely to play much for Lancashire this season as they have signed Nathan Lyon. That can't be good for his development.
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Re: England v india
« Reply #127 on: February 26, 2024, 11:53:26 AM »
Quote from: Thor Odin’s Son on February 26, 2024, 08:42:10 AM
Cope and seethe

Ollie Pope 16 innings in India
1 fluke innings scored 196
15 other innings averages 16

Shows how poor the CC is when this stiff has been gifted 42 test caps

Oh, the County Championship is getting the blame again is it?

Hartley and Bashir won't even start the season in their county first XIs.
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Re: England v india
« Reply #128 on: February 26, 2024, 12:24:10 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on February 26, 2024, 11:53:26 AM
Oh, the County Championship is getting the blame again is it?

Hartley and Bashir won't even start the season in their county first XIs.

Isn't that more of a reason to blame the County Championship?
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Re: England v india
« Reply #129 on: February 26, 2024, 01:00:41 PM »
Quote from: Bungle on February 26, 2024, 12:24:10 PM
Isn't that more of a reason to blame the County Championship?

The scheduling, maybe?  My point was that county cricket can't be that weak if Test cricketers can't get a game.




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Re: England v india
« Reply #130 on: February 26, 2024, 01:03:28 PM »
Bashir averages 60 with the ball in the CC because it is so weak?
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Re: England v india
« Reply #131 on: February 26, 2024, 01:05:13 PM »
Perhaps he should consider bowling with the wrong arm or something?
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Re: England v india
« Reply #132 on: February 26, 2024, 02:48:03 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on February 26, 2024, 01:00:41 PM
The scheduling, maybe?  My point was that county cricket can't be that weak if Test cricketers can't get a game.
Note a design than a strength issue isn’t it?
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Re: England v india
« Reply #133 on: February 26, 2024, 03:48:35 PM »
They shoehorn it in around all the other nonsense.
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Re: England v india
« Reply #134 on: February 26, 2024, 10:22:06 PM »
Wasn’t it something like one win in 17 games under the last regime of root/silverwood?
And the majority of this team are the same players from then
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