Topic: 3lb Joker (Read 15819 times)

kenbriooo · « **Reply #15 on:** April 12, 2010, 11:55:40 AM »

No worries, no harm in asking

stubbzy · « **Reply #16 on:** April 12, 2010, 11:58:46 AM »

how much are the jokers ?

niceonechoppy · « **Reply #17 on:** April 12, 2010, 12:14:28 PM »

150 for G3, 180-200 for G1...

Cakes · « **Reply #18 on:** April 12, 2010, 05:27:11 PM »

i still think �150 for a grade 3 is a bit steep. �120-�130 would be more resaonable

FattusCattus · « **Reply #19 on:** April 12, 2010, 07:03:02 PM »

I suspect Charlie will drop the price immediatly then.

Tumo · « **Reply #20 on:** April 12, 2010, 07:10:36 PM »

Quote from: Cakes on April 12, 2010, 05:27:11 PM

i still think �150 for a grade 3 is a bit steep. �120-�130 would be more resaonable

Why is �150 for grade 3 steep? look around. GN/GM/Slaz/Adidas all do the same, in fact more expensive. Charlie is offering a fairly unique style of bat, compared to your bog standard mainstream companies, in the same grade of willow, for less. I don't understand why the price would be more reasonable anyway, the quality of bat is all the same, it's just aesthetics! As far as I'm aware anyway. You also have to remember that prices go up with the market. Bats will be more expensive at the moment anyway because of the need for smaller companies such as Black Cat to survive. If you can find another company offering a product similar to the joker, a higher grade willow, and a similar/cheaper price, then buy it!

Colesy · « **Reply #21 on:** April 12, 2010, 07:12:01 PM »

GM sell grade 2 for �140.....

petehosk · « **Reply #22 on:** April 12, 2010, 07:15:33 PM »

Quote from: Colesy on April 12, 2010, 07:12:01 PM

GM sell grade 2 for �140.....

I think Tumo was making the point of a similar product! A G2 GM is not the same as a G3 Joker!
For a start the Joker is more of a power bat with a middle almost the size of the entire blade! The GM is a different creature!

kenbriooo · « **Reply #23 on:** April 12, 2010, 07:20:53 PM »

It's the same in any business the small independants will have to charge more than the bigger companies and probably with smaller profit margins. If you went to a small clothes shop you'd pay more for your jeans than at primark! I for one am happy to support small independant British companies

Tom · « **Reply #24 on:** April 12, 2010, 07:25:06 PM »

Disagree with that Ken. Smaller cricket companies have no player costs, very few storage costs and less overheads. And as they often sell direct (cutting out the retailer) their profit margins are almost twice as big.

Though �150 is about standard for the RRP of a G3. When Charlie is in retailers they'll sell for �120ish as retailers discount about 20%.

kenbriooo · « **Reply #25 on:** April 12, 2010, 07:54:38 PM »

But you could also state that the bigger companies buy and sell in the thousands so are able to get a lower start price etc, but I take on board your point and accept your talking from a position of greater experience than I. But I presume ( and i'm happy to be corrected) that although the bigger boys pay out lots in players fees etc they intern get more of their goods bought. So taking on board what you have said I would think that any small bat maker would have to sell a lot (even at a possible greater profit margain) to get anywhere near even the second tier of cricket equipment companies.

Having bought my last 2 bats from small companies I know that's the way I am heading in the future

* when I say second tier I mean as in brand size not comparitive performace of their goods. I.e big brand that is world know with lots of players -GM compared to Salix for example another fantastic brand just not as in the public eye

Black Cat Cricket · « **Reply #26 on:** April 12, 2010, 08:18:29 PM »

Most of our G3s are very generously graded, and would be a G2 if sold by a 'big brand'.

All the G3s go as well as any bat, and that's before you make them to a Joker shape.

I personally think a G3 Joker is the biggest bargain in cricket...

procricket · « **Reply #27 on:** April 12, 2010, 08:30:01 PM »

A grade 2 cleft sold is around 29 pounds am I not correct
Charlie you own your own willow

? Are the clefts cut diffrently from the tree to get the bigger allowed shape the joker seems to offer.

Sorry for my question

SillyShilly · « **Reply #28 on:** April 12, 2010, 08:35:10 PM »

I'd be suprised if you could get anywhere near that profile from a standard cleft......but im sure he's not going to divulge all of his secrets, but then again it could be our lucky day

Watsontotty · « **Reply #29 on:** April 12, 2010, 08:37:13 PM »

You could look at it the other way and say if he graded bats on performance then in theory you could get many g2 or g3 bats which would cost you �180.00 as they totally perform. Lots of examples out there of very very respected batmakers that make their bats in this format and they play very very well. I would much rather buy a bat graded on performance than on cosmetics.

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