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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #540 on: September 20, 2010, 08:38:17 PM »

Davies playing of spin wasn't very good. He could get some pointers from Ramps and Thorpe.
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« Reply #541 on: September 20, 2010, 08:41:40 PM »

England finally being shown up for their lack of world class players, rip out that top 5 and theres not much to come.

Yardy and Bresnan never gonna set the world alight with bat or ball - average players who wouldnt get a look in for the best teams in the world like Aus/India/S.Af
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« Reply #542 on: September 21, 2010, 06:51:10 AM »

strauss and davies were going at 7+ at one point.

Yes was a great start but what happened in the middle without a wright type batsmen all the pressure is on Morgan to do what razzaq did and to do that off gul is very difficult we needed to carry on at that rate and get the rate in the last 10-15 at 5rpo or less as pak are experts at death bowling in gul and shoaib
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #543 on: September 21, 2010, 08:20:41 AM »

How about we make it easy for ourselves? Win the toss and bat first so we aren't chasing under lights? In English conditions, with the amount of moisture in the air, Gul and Akhtar reverse swinging it will be difficult for any batsman.....
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #544 on: September 21, 2010, 08:24:34 AM »

England finally being shown up for their lack of world class players, rip out that top 5 and theres not much to come.

Yardy and Bresnan never gonna set the world alight with bat or ball - average players who wouldnt get a look in for the best teams in the world like Aus/India/S.Af
I hate to pull you up on this mate, but how do you explain James Hopes? Mr bits and pieces himself! And Ravi Jadeja, not good enough with either bat or ball in the shorter form. Fair enough with SA though, they're not a side to do bits and pieces players!

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« Reply #545 on: September 21, 2010, 09:21:49 AM »

Yardy is not international level batsman or bowler, strauss doesn't even have faith in his bowling, you can tell. What's he there for?
Bresnan will come through i reckon, he's had good patches, will only be more consistent with experience.

And finally...... WHAT A HITTER RAZZAQ IS, ALWAYS KNEW HE WAS CLASS.
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #546 on: September 21, 2010, 10:47:28 AM »


Bresnan will come through i reckon, he's had good patches, will only be more consistent with experience.

Only time he has been any good was vs Bangladesh. All the top sides smash him around
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #547 on: September 21, 2010, 02:32:46 PM »

maybe i'm missing something here - but what is so good about bresnan? isnt ajmal shazad a more attacking option? He looks like a very poor mans hoggard who cant swing the ball.

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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #548 on: September 21, 2010, 04:23:03 PM »

Bresnan is poor.

My favourite piece of journalism from this season. Atherton, "young Tamim Iqbal made Bresnan look like a jobbing trundler in the Bradford League."
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #549 on: September 21, 2010, 04:26:49 PM »

must say that IMO bresnan doesn't add anything to the team.

We need to have a more balanced team here, and I think that with a top 5 of Strauss, Davies ( on a trial period, although he is doing well atm) , trott, pietersen and bell, followed by a lower middle order of Collingwood Morgan and Broad, with the back 3 being Swann Anderson and a.n.other pace bowler, whoever you think is the man for the job?
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« Reply #550 on: September 21, 2010, 04:42:54 PM »

must say that IMO bresnan doesn't add anything to the team.

We need to have a more balanced team here, and I think that with a top 5 of Strauss, Davies ( on a trial period, although he is doing well atm) , trott, pietersen and bell, followed by a lower middle order of Collingwood Morgan and Broad, with the back 3 being Swann Anderson and a.n.other pace bowler, whoever you think is the man for the job?
Morgan at 7? I wouldn't have both Trott and Collingwood
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #551 on: September 21, 2010, 04:51:39 PM »

I would, after spending a day in double IGCSE physics, you have much time to mull over the imprtant decisions in life, such as the English middle order.

At the end of the day, ODI is different to test in that you don't need to take a set number of wickets to win the match. NAd it's been our middle order and batting in general that has let us down recently.

Also, even with Morgan at 7, we have the bowling line up of, Swann Anderson Broad, a.n.other pace or spinner, surface dependent and situation dependent, alond with Collingwood and Trott who both bowl.
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #552 on: September 21, 2010, 04:57:55 PM »

At this moment in time, looking at form, I would 'rest' Collingwood!
The guy is so much out of form, it's unreal!!!!! I would play Bopara who is in form! Bopara can bowl as well as Colly, so have him instead and see if Colly can get himself sorted! The way he has batted lately, he has been diabolical! I know everyone goes through bad patches, but everytime he starts batting, he looks like such an easy target!  >:(
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #553 on: September 21, 2010, 05:01:22 PM »

well i was heavily criticised in aother topic for dropping colly in my team, and now its a bad call to keep him,

there are arguments for both, but i always felt bopara was going to be class, he has this aura about hom
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« Reply #554 on: September 21, 2010, 05:52:14 PM »

Colly is in bad form yes, but he was great last time in aus so I think if he can get some runs in the warm up games he's a cert! As for bresnan I have never rated him, much prefer luke wright, although he needs to strenghen his bowling!
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