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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #60 on: July 31, 2010, 07:46:14 PM »

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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #61 on: August 06, 2010, 09:33:09 AM »

Second test starts this morning... Pakistan have dropped the wicket keeper and MoYo has said (understandably) he isn't in any sort of condition to play in this match.
If England bowl first I think this game will be over in three days.
England 1 Andrew Strauss (capt), 2 Alastair Cook, 3 Jonathan Trott, 4 Kevin Pietersen, 5 Paul Collingwood, 6 Eoin Morgan, 7 Matt Prior (wk), 8 Graeme Swann, 9 Stuart Broad, 10 James Anderson, 11 Steven Finn

Pakistan 1 Salman Butt (capt), 2 Imran Farhat, 3 Azhar Ali, 4 Umar Amin, 5 Umar Akmal, 6 Shoaib Malik, 7 Zulqarnain Haider (wk), 8 Mohammad Amir, 9 Umar Gul, 10 Saeed Ajmal, 11 Mohammad Asif

oh and Salman Butt has won the toss and Pakistan will bat.
http://www.cricinfo.com/england-v-pakistan-2010/engine/current/match/426414.html
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #62 on: August 06, 2010, 09:37:27 AM »

I'm not a betting man........but i cant see Finn taking more than 1 wicket today.......
Thanks for the quick reminder, time to tune into TMS!!!
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #63 on: August 06, 2010, 09:40:48 AM »

Also Sri Lanka have fought back hard this morning against India and that game is shaping up to be a cracker - http://www.cricinfo.com/sri-lanka-v-india-2010/engine/current/match/456671.html
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #64 on: August 06, 2010, 09:45:56 AM »

Sky HD is warming up.
Will be looking at the form of Cook and Pietersen....although I suspect that if these 2 do not perform with the bat again, it is only likely to be Cook who is possibly dropped!
But with the likes of Carberry, Lumb and Bopara all on excellent form, then should England be waiting for Cook and Pietersen to refind their form? Or should we be playing the players who are actually already in great form?
Would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Bell hadn't got his injury!!  ???
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #65 on: August 06, 2010, 09:48:53 AM »

Sky HD ready for the 1st hour of the morning....net at Globe from 12-1 to fine tune my batting skills for the weekends big cup game then back to work afterwards!

Think KP could be warming the bench if Belly was fit?!?
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #66 on: August 06, 2010, 09:52:35 AM »

I reckon Cook would be the one jogging on with the drinks if Bell was fit!
They would have to amend the batting order slightly - open with Trott and Beel at 3? - but I'm pretty sure they'd drop Cook before the sacred KP?
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #67 on: August 06, 2010, 09:54:45 AM »

If Bell wasn't injured, Morgan wouldn't have been picked

In my view any suggestion of dropping either Cook or Pietersen is barking, unless we have people ready made who could open and average 45 and bat at 4 and average 49 over 50 tests as these guys do.
In any team there are batsman who are in form and out of form, but you also need to maintain consistency to ensure the best performance from a batsman.

Given how the team are playing, I can't see that there will be any changes to the team ahead of the ashes, so when Bell gets fit he will almost cetainly miss out - unless one of the batters gets no runs in this series.

I actually think that Trott shouldn't be pushed up to open, but if Cook is to be dropped, Bell should open in his place. That way the batting order stays as settled as possible, which is really important.
Personally I think that we have too many natural number 5's in our team, with Bell, Collingwood, Pieterson, Bopara and Trott all more naturally suited to the number 5 at test level.

There is zero chance of KP being dropped.
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #68 on: August 06, 2010, 10:03:50 AM »

Alot of that is true.
Just as well Bell wasn't fit, as we would have been deprived of some stunning batting from Morgan!!  :D

But will be interested to see what happens if Cook does fail again....with the form Carberry is in with the bat, and as he does open well and fields superbly, will he be tried out in the next Test to give an decent alternative to Cook?
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #69 on: August 06, 2010, 10:14:13 AM »

Anyone fancy a little paypal wager again? ;)
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #70 on: August 06, 2010, 10:21:40 AM »

Carberry is a really good play and a fantastic fielder - so my get a mention in dispatches.

Am happy to undertake a paypal wager, on condition the odds are as favourable as those offered by SS... :)
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #71 on: August 06, 2010, 10:31:51 AM »

Thinking retrospectively, it wasnt a wager at all.......it was a mugging and everybody watched as Buzz delighted in making me look like a fool!
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #72 on: August 06, 2010, 10:32:45 AM »

Buzz ... fiver says England wont bowl out pakistan today?
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #73 on: August 06, 2010, 10:36:17 AM »

Buzz ... fiver says England wont bowl out pakistan today?
you are on.

On the other game - India need 257 to win... anyone think that will do it?
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #74 on: August 06, 2010, 10:37:11 AM »

Great... Shilly this mugging is for you mate!
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