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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #615 on: September 26, 2010, 08:54:40 AM »

and he least he has some balls...
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« Reply #616 on: September 26, 2010, 01:54:07 PM »

Trott is class!

And he will need a bit of fight in australia this winter.
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« Reply #617 on: September 26, 2010, 01:55:32 PM »

Always a fan of Trott, good to see the bears doing well for the national side. All we need now is for a Bear to hit a ton at Edgbaston, never been done :(

But Trott has balls and I think he will excel down under :)
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« Reply #618 on: September 26, 2010, 03:07:57 PM »

Personally I think he is limited in shot making ability to become a high-class player. He will need to adapt otherwise teams will soon work him out that he plays most shots to the leg side. Although I accept that he scored runs for England when it mattered most. If Eng players are taking minor chants or words from a handful of fans in a series they won, then how will they handle the legendary abuse & comedic sledging of the Aus fans?? The Aussies will have a field day - I reckon he might even cry
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« Reply #619 on: September 26, 2010, 03:10:40 PM »

As it hasn't been proved and no action has been taken, i think Pakistan suppourters are on incredibly thin ice.

Not sure why, but something about their test match CAPTAIN and 2 of their fast bowlers being formally suspended by the ICC might have something to do with it.

Oh and aswell, the chairman of the PCB being sued by the ECB.

All in all a great thank you from Pakistan for us kindly letting you use our grounds this summer :)

I'm sure we won't be seeing you for at least another 10 years :)
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« Reply #620 on: September 26, 2010, 08:15:18 PM »

Personally i think he needs to ignore things like fan abuse and get back to his game. When i watched the highlights of the 5th ODI it showed him walking out and he looked really aggressive, like he wanted someone to start something with him whereas ive always felt he was never very "confrontational" as it were whenever ive seen him before :)
Still its from the NOTW, probably only 2% of the story isnt complete boolocks...
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« Reply #621 on: September 26, 2010, 08:31:48 PM »

The English tabloids are well known to kick their own teams and players, as long as their isn't any Pakistanis around that is. Just look at what they do with the footballers. If the English team get a couple of early losses in Australia.....than the notw will show their true colours
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« Reply #622 on: September 26, 2010, 08:36:14 PM »

Now that Pak are long gone home...the scummy tabloids will focus its attention on to destabilising their football & cricket teams chances wherever they go.
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #623 on: September 26, 2010, 09:42:49 PM »

Sorry - average in comparison to who? In comparison to Sachin, Lara, etc!
His averages are up with almost anyones, so I think calling him average is perhaps a little silly?
Annoying batsman, ok - will give you that one. But average?  ???
Tendulkar, Lara etc have played over 100 Tests, we'll wait and see what Trott averages after he's played 50 Tests.
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #624 on: September 26, 2010, 10:13:12 PM »

I actually do think that Trott is average when comparing him to Sachin and Lara, but then who isn't!!!
The point I was trying to make was that Trott is ONLY average in comparison to the best! When you compare him to everyone else, then he is far from average.
Time will tell how well he'll be doing in a year or two though!
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #625 on: September 26, 2010, 10:19:38 PM »

u dont have to be naturally gifted. ... . .and have lots of flair. .  .to be a great.


look at someone like steve waugh. .. .he is one of my favourite.

i think trott is a limited batsman . . . . .but plays within his bubble....the aussies will certainly try to put him through the psychological mincer. . . .lets see how he copes.
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« Reply #626 on: September 27, 2010, 08:31:04 AM »

Without Trott this summer we would have been in so much more trouble than we already were and his temperament was one of the major reasons behind this. While all the other batsmen were falling at Lords he just got on with batting, playing what he wanted to play and leaving anything he could. He has really impressed me this season and hope his form continues this winter as the Aussies are sure to try and give him the hurry up. However, being a Warwickshire Bear I'm sure he can cope! ;)
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #627 on: September 27, 2010, 10:28:12 AM »

As it hasn't been proved and no action has been taken, i think Pakistan suppourters are on incredibly thin ice.

Not sure why, but something about their test match CAPTAIN and 2 of their fast bowlers being formally suspended by the ICC might have something to do with it.

Oh and aswell, the chairman of the PCB being sued by the ECB.

All in all a great thank you from Pakistan for us kindly letting you use our grounds this summer :)

I'm sure we won't be seeing you for at least another 10 years :)

Nothing has so far been proven, infact, Mazhar Majeed has been allowed to continue his usual role at his football club by the concerned sports body. What i read was that Scotland Yard actually were follow him for money laundering through his football club and alleged spot fixing came form the news paper. I am still waiting for the damning evidence from the tabloid that the video was not filmed after day 1 had concluded. There probably is nothing to prove it. I don't think that Scotland Yard or ICC or PCB would be able to prove. If anyone is guilty, without substantial evidence a ban may not come though the players involved may be dropped for a long time to come from the team. 
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #628 on: September 27, 2010, 10:56:08 AM »

Facts are different to accusations and prosecutions, the fact that no benefit in monetary terms was gained by the bowling of the no balls in the UK means that no criminal charges can be brought. So it makes no odds if they bowled them on purpose or not in the eyes of the law, so the fact that the police will not be taking action does not prove the players innocence.

As for the stupid counter claim of the fix being recorded the day after the police and ICC were sent full transcripts of the video before the start of the days play. The balls were bowled as per the recording and the ICC has the proof of this.

It is also well known that gambling is not legal in Pakistan yet it goes on, the sting on the illegal bookies will not be reported and so proof of this is not likely to be given to the authorities by those breaking the law.

Long term problems resulting from sub continent gambling has been around for quite some time, coupled with the odd results recorded by Pakistan and previous accusations and prosecutions of players and former players have been long known and allowed to be swept under the carpet. Do we expect anything more than another round of this now? I think not, judge the future by the actions of the past.
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #629 on: September 28, 2010, 01:01:53 PM »

Found this video clip of Shoaib bowling rapidly against Ponting...



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