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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2010, 10:13:46 AM »
I agree that we should start with anderson, but we all know how average hw can be in non swinging conditions and yes that is the team I think that will start.

I watched all 5 days at edgbaston 09 from the pavillion, so had a decent view of the turn. Ok maybe hauritz will take a few wickets in the first couple of test but I think the England team will soon work him out.

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2010, 10:13:56 AM »
Quote from: Colesy on September 18, 2010, 10:09:51 AM
Will Onions be fit?

I don't think so - didn't he just have surgery on his back or something?
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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2010, 10:18:14 AM »
I'd take an experienced Anderson over Shazhad. He's just not good enough! And Hauritz is a better spinner than 99% of people give him credit for. Steve Smith can barely turn the ball, he doesn't get a lot of spin on his topspinners, and from what I saw he perennially bowls short deliveries... I'll pass on him thanks!
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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2010, 10:22:47 AM »
As an Aussie, they're likely to pile on the runs so would rather have Smith who may go for a few more runs but will take wickets. Shazhad ONLY IF ANDERSON IS POOR.
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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2010, 10:27:32 AM »
Flintoff not fit??  ;)
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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2010, 10:35:22 AM »
Couple of good points knocking around here.
It will be a massive test for us out there. Anderson has to take a lot of responsibility because the back up seamers we have at the minute are not good enough, Shazhad is nowhere near a test match bowler.

Swann could have a massive impact I think but in equal measure my jury is out on Broad. He comes across as mentally naïve and petulant, he could be found out in Aus.

I think our batting will be fine, it'll be won and lost on how our bowlers perform.
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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2010, 10:51:17 AM »
England hedging their bets on will Swann won't pay off. I'm recent times Kumble has been the most successful overseas spinner, 49 wickets @ 37, which isn't great. Other spinners have struggled, Murali (being the best of all time averages 70 per wicket), Harbhajan(similar average to Murali, but gets picked as he owns Punter), Vettori, Kaneria & Ajmal.

Going into Gabba I wouldn't be surprised if Australia went in with 4 seamers. Gabba offers the most swing and seam. Also Ponting has said his 3 front line seamers are Johnson, Siddle & Hilfenhaus.

Steven Smith is way behind Hauritz. Smith isn't certain to get a gig in India, so why would he play in Australia?
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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2010, 06:25:50 PM »
After a period of thought, this is now my team to take on the aussies. Each format different. Controversial but I think strong.

Test

Strauss
Cook
Trott
Pietersen
Bell
Morgan
Prior
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Finn

One Day

Strauss
Prior
Trott
Pietersen
Bell
Bopara
Morgan
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Shazhad

T20

Adams
Prior
Pietersen
Bell
Collingwood
Morgan
Yardy
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Shazhad
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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2010, 06:47:16 PM »
Quote from: thebd11 on September 20, 2010, 06:25:50 PM
After a period of thought, this is now my team to take on the aussies. Each format different. Controversial but I think strong.

Test

Strauss
Cook
Trott
Pietersen
Bell
Morgan
Prior
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Finn

One Day

Strauss
Prior
Trott
Pietersen
Bell
Bopara
Morgan
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Shazhad

T20

Adams
Prior
Pietersen
Bell
Collingwood
Morgan
Yardy
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Shazhad

No Colly in the test team? He was the only player to get any runs in the whitewash last time we were out there.
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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2010, 06:53:15 PM »
no offense but do you really believe that england are going to change the current side in all formats ?? shazad - dont be silly and adams to make his debut in australia ? proir to be givien his place back after doing nothing, droping colly in the test squad ?? 
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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2010, 07:07:35 PM »
That's a very controversial team, what's just been said is entirely true IMO...
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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2010, 07:23:35 PM »
prior doing nothing?
check his stats in this seasons 40 over and t20 sussex games.
My first pick would have been sidebottom for the t20s....
Did you see the way Collingwood batted today and since the Bangladesh games?
Did you watch adams at all this season in the t20s?
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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2010, 07:25:39 PM »
Yeah point taken, but surely you go for tried and tested, especially Down under?!
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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2010, 07:27:27 PM »
no, I think that in order to take on the aussies in their own back yard I think we don't want to be bland and boring.

We need to take the attack to the aussies, not so much in style of play but as in team selection etc, we need not to be the typically meek englishman, again metaphorically not literally
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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2010, 07:31:47 PM »
Test would be

Strauss
Cook
Trott
Kp
Colly
Bell
Prior
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Finn

Odi

Strauss
Davies
Kp
Bell
Colly
Morgan
Wright
Yardy
Broad
Swann
Anderson
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