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Simmy

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Re: appraisal of bats we havent used
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2010, 03:34:31 PM »

If you go out and pay £400 for a bat your going to be a brave sole to turn around and tell your mates its not actually any better than what they have got in their kit bag.

perception is that the more money something costs the better is it and will perform. Buy a porsche for example....its cost you an extra £2.5k to have their logo emboirdered on the seats....does it make it any faster?? nope....but you can bet ur life ul be gettin ur mates to notice u have the extra wow factor on the seats as a status symbol (if the car alone isnt enough lol).


i allways preffer the wolfs in sheeps clothing!

i like getting bats not many people have herd of then when they are awsome lots of people asking about them!

like on this forum alot of people know all the brands but if i turn up in my league with a blueroom no body will know anything about it.

same with the cars!

my polo had roughly the same performance as some bottom end porsches.

why spend more money on something when u can get same for half the price and the same performance
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Re: appraisal of bats we havent used
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2010, 03:40:08 PM »

have to agree mate, only saw one other SCAT in our league last year which was a premium model.

due to the small volume of bats scat are banging out you would hope quality control was very high though as for the price you wouldnt want a plank! end of the day though if ur good enough u should score runs with anything in ur hands...the bat will just enhance this a bit. would be an interesting experiment though giving one of the pros a plank to bat with and seeing how they get on.
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Re: appraisal of bats we havent used
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2010, 03:40:38 PM »

Thanks Simmy, good insight

i just couldnt be bothered to right a reply to all the stuff you put apart from the fact that a better performance bat will help a good cricketer!

last year i got my solitaire and it was a monster i hit some of the biggest 6's i have ever hit this year! nothing to do with my cricket ablility as i havnt got any better or worse from the last few years. but i have hit the ball harder and further! if this isnt anything to do with a new bat with better peformance i dunno what is.

chances are if the bat was (No Swearing Please) some of them shots i would of got out to as the ball wouldnt have gone for 6 possibly could of dropped short etc
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Re: appraisal of bats we havent used
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2010, 03:43:15 PM »

Same with all things if you think you have a belter of a bat in your hands you are more confident and can help alot used my current special one for last 4 games and avg 68 just a mental thing at times
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Re: appraisal of bats we havent used
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2010, 03:44:17 PM »

alot of cricket is mental!

its all in ur head :)

cricket should be a simple game only we make it complicated
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Re: appraisal of bats we havent used
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2010, 03:52:46 PM »

Simmy you seem to be arguing with yourself there mate.
The solitaire is nothing like the SCAT or LAver and is just a Big bat all round, but a good big bat.
However, a big bat whatever fricky shape it is going to go unless made by a muppet or a bad piece of wood

To be honest a novice can make that bat.

1) get big bit of wood
2) shave into a bat shape with lots of wood behind the ball
3) put stickers on it
4) charge £100 for it.

Last point, as i can tell you obviously have no time on your hands
A good bat will normally increase the performance of a GOOD cricketer, especially if he thinks it is a good bat i.e Roco's mental think
However a good bat will not MAKE  a good cricketer, and will not improve the performance of a bad cricketer, especially if the bat has a small and concentrated middle. What i am sayin gis that those bats will only really perform in the hands of a good cricketer and on here you have the feeling peopl eare chasing the best bat ( normally too big) rather thean the right bat for them

other than that, good point well made mate!
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Re: appraisal of bats we havent used
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2010, 03:56:02 PM »

No offence intended to anyone here but I think if someone goes out to buy an expensive bat thinking it will automatically make them a better cricketer then IMO there an absolute clown!! The only thing that will make you any better at your own game is practise and hard graft. The quality bat just adds the gravy to the plate that's all. But.... I agree with the use of bats that won't suit a wicket or the style of play someone has. No poor buying a £400 he-man bat if a: it's too heavy/light b: it doesn't suit your game eg too low/high a middle. If anything it'll make you struggle and you'll be stuck with a bat you can't really use to the potential it was intended and an empty pocket. Thongs like that can help with confidence, the 2 bats I have now have given that mental edge to my game but by no means have I become a blonder, shorter Michael Vaughan run machine.
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Re: appraisal of bats we havent used
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2010, 03:56:57 PM »

Weight is relative as mike drilled into me I usually use a 2lb11/12 but at the mo using a 2lb14 as it's all down to the pick up but do agree people use bats that are too heavy for them as the pick up can accommodate the odd oz but not if your using a bat 5/6 oz too heavy but depends on the level you play or aspire to play
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Re: appraisal of bats we havent used
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2010, 03:58:41 PM »

Thongs like that can help with confidence,

Is there something you'd like to tell us mate? ;)
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Re: appraisal of bats we havent used
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2010, 04:00:23 PM »

Things! thongs, French Knicks, g-strings, granny Panties, uber pants.... You know what it was meant to say hahaha. L
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Re: appraisal of bats we havent used
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2010, 04:01:45 PM »

i disagree again on some bits

if a cricketer is poor and his bat has a small middle if they get a bat with a bigger middle and a better quality of willow that has better performance. they are going to me able to hit the ball better and there chances of scoring runs is greater.

but they are still not gonna turn into a good cricket just there chances are improving my a few percent!

but i agree with you size and weight of bats each bat should be picked up and tested.

Hence why me and liam this time round went to see a bat maker and we got bats there where perfect for are style of play.

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Re: appraisal of bats we havent used
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2010, 04:03:34 PM »

I do agree with pick up being more important than deadwieght, and maybe i am exceprionally weak, but deadweight does play a part in cuts, flat bat shots and to some extent flicks off your legs.

I feel that even a coupl eof oz will have an effect.
Why if it is only pick up do the vast majoprity of pros have bats the same weight?
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Re: appraisal of bats we havent used
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2010, 04:05:10 PM »

Yeah but teres plenty of people that will buy a bay just because of who made it or where it was for etc. I was nearly guilty of that mate a few weeks back but I thought about it and out decks are far to soft for a county spec bat with a relatively high and concentrated middle
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Re: appraisal of bats we havent used
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2010, 04:09:14 PM »

For consistency plus they will know there perfect weight shape handle width toe thickness etc and most will use the same bat maker for life we as amateurs won't we try different shapes makers etc

Plus I find pick up more important for bat speed as I have a very good pull/hook and good off my legs not very good on the cut but that's me not the bat
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Re: appraisal of bats we havent used
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2010, 04:11:56 PM »

They will know what weight gives there bats the best performance to weight ratio and take it as a base I guess. And roco I totally agree mate
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