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Cover_Drive

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Re: In a dilemma...
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2010, 07:03:37 PM »
Quote from: jonpinson on December 01, 2010, 06:59:25 PM
I don't think Asad knows any more than has already been said, when I spoke to him he was as baffled by the situation as we are. It is really Salix who need to answer questions. Email them, should get a reply around Easter :D
I did email Vicky the pictures of this bat and am awaiting a response from her.
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Re: In a dilemma...
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2010, 07:06:32 PM »
Sorry CD mate, I understand now. Bit tricky that then. Good luck though
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Re: In a dilemma...
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2010, 07:06:52 PM »
Quote from: Cover_Drive on December 01, 2010, 07:01:49 PM
Rob and Gary both don't accept paypal. Bank transfer from Canada cost £35 so that ruins the taste for me.

Jon, I spoke to Asad regarding this and he said Salix Factory Second bats usually come with a small catalogue which describes the damage/defect on the bat. However, this bat's catalogue said nothing in regards the damage and flaw. Someone pointed that the only flaw is stains on back side ?

I'm 90% sure if you bought it you would be over the moon. But I don't want to see you buying a bat that 'could' not perform well, especially due to your location.

Salixs are lovely, really. My favourite brand, but the truth is these days you can get bats of equal quality for less money. There are alot of great bats on the Uzi site. I have a feeling the unbranded jobs for £150 will effectively be top grade Newbery, so will be just as good. Never thought I'd say it, but stay away from the Salix in your situation.
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Re: In a dilemma...
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2010, 07:08:03 PM »
Quote from: Cover_Drive on December 01, 2010, 07:03:37 PM
I did email Vicky the pictures of this bat and am awaiting a response from her.

Vicky is good at emails. Sent her two in June, got one response in September, one in November. I wouldn't hold your breath.
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Re: In a dilemma...
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2010, 07:14:32 PM »
Quote from: jonpinson on December 01, 2010, 07:06:52 PM
I'm 90% sure if you bought it you would be over the moon. But I don't want to see you buying a bat that 'could' not perform well, especially due to your location.

Salixs are lovely, really. My favourite brand, but the truth is these days you can get bats of equal quality for less money. There are alot of great bats on the Uzi site. I have a feeling the unbranded jobs for £150 will effectively be top grade Newbery, so will be just as good. Never thought I'd say it, but stay away from the Salix in your situation.

I have dealt with Asad before and bought a Newbery from them, hence, I don't want to buy a Newbery again.

But aren't Salix famous for there performance?

Really? Vicky has been very effecient in my case and usually depots within 24 hours
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Re: In a dilemma...
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2010, 07:16:19 PM »
Quote from: justnotcricket86 on December 01, 2010, 07:06:32 PM
Sorry CD mate, I understand now. Bit tricky that then. Good luck though
Thanks I know how painful it is to live in Canadawith everything being in UK, Aus, Asia etc
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Re: In a dilemma...
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2010, 07:26:04 PM »
Quote from: Cover_Drive on December 01, 2010, 07:14:32 PM
I have dealt with Asad before and bought a Newbery from them, hence, I don't want to buy a Newbery again.

But aren't Salix famous for there performance?

Really? Vicky has been very effecient in my case and usually depots within 24 hours

Salix are good mate, probably as good as anyone, but it isn't true to say they are clearly better than anyone else. Tell us more about your Newbery, as they have an equally good reputation.

The more we speak the more I think you should look at a H4L or something similar. You can have a bat made to your specs, so you know what you are getting will be right for you.
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Re: In a dilemma...
« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2010, 07:40:57 PM »
Here is a review of my Newbery;

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=6018.0

Honestly the finishing on my Newbery is second to none and I am truly impressed with Newbery's work.

I will be looking at those options, however, I am not too fussed about custom made bats. I pretty much got a bat in summer by MB Malik which was made to my specs (as far handle, grains etc) were concerned whereas the profile/shape was according to Shahid Afridi's bats and so far I am really liking that shape. Here is the mb I am talking about

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=7304.0
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Re: In a dilemma...
« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2010, 07:44:42 PM »
I guess the question is what's wrong with the Salix - as if it is faultless its a bargain.

It's hard to know or guess with Salix not usually setting a recommended price. For example someone could pick up a very cheap storm damaged bat and sell it on.

They'd be best of grading the defect into tiers and sticking that on the bat.
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Re: In a dilemma...
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2010, 08:11:01 PM »
Quote from: Tom on December 01, 2010, 07:44:42 PM
I guess the question is what's wrong with the Salix - as if it is faultless its a bargain.

It's hard to know or guess with Salix not usually setting a recommended price. For example someone could pick up a very cheap storm damaged bat and sell it on.

They'd be best of grading the defect into tiers and sticking that on the bat.

Annoyingly, they half do that. Rougues can be bought from factory for as little as £50, but you know it will be a shocker at that price. They go up in bands all the way to £200 I think. What they don't do is specify on their labelling which grade of Rogue it is, which would help alot.
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Re: In a dilemma...
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2010, 08:12:59 PM »
Quote from: jonpinson on December 01, 2010, 08:11:01 PM
Annoyingly, they half do that. Rougues can be bought from factory for as little as £50, but you know it will be a shocker at that price. They go up in bands all the way to £200 I think. What they don't do is specify on their labelling which grade of Rogue it is, which would help alot.

They do mate. The link I posted says 'Grade One'
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Re: In a dilemma...
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2010, 08:37:15 PM »
Quote from: Cover_Drive on December 01, 2010, 08:12:59 PM
They do mate. The link I posted says 'Grade One'

Yeh, but you don't then see 'G2' 'G3' on lower Rogue models. I wonder if the G1 label in that case actually signifies that originally the bat was destined to be a Salix G1, not a Rogue at all.

You know, it could be something really stupid like someone put the wrong label on at the end of a long day. Rogue labels look very similar to other models, it is possible. It would explain the lack of notification as to the flaw from Salix too. In which case you really do have a bargain there. But these are all ifs and buts.
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Re: In a dilemma...
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2010, 08:49:47 PM »
Quote from: jonpinson on December 01, 2010, 08:37:15 PM
Yeh, but you don't then see 'G2' 'G3' on lower Rogue models. I wonder if the G1 label in that case actually signifies that originally the bat was destined to be a Salix G1, not a Rogue at all.

You know, it could be something really stupid like someone put the wrong label on at the end of a long day. Rogue labels look very similar to other models, it is possible. It would explain the lack of notification as to the flaw from Salix too. In which case you really do have a bargain there. But these are all ifs and buts.

I don't think Salix make G2 or even G3 bats. the performance which is lower range is also Grade 1 but not a good looking one as Grade One model.

I am not too sure if Salix makes G2 or G3 bats seperately for Rogue model.
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Re: In a dilemma...
« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2010, 09:02:21 PM »
Quote from: Cover_Drive on December 01, 2010, 08:49:47 PM
I don't think Salix make G2 or even G3 bats. the performance which is lower range is also Grade 1 but not a good looking one as Grade One model.

I am not too sure if Salix makes G2 or G3 bats seperately for Rogue model.

Ah, this proves my point perfectly, we've got our wires crossed.

Let us assume for the rest of this that all willow destined for Salix bats is G1.

Now, when for whatever reason, a bat is identified as one destined to be a Rogue, Salix operate a Rogue specific grading system dependant on the seriousness of the flaw that is found. The 'G1' Rogues might have a minor visual imperfection, tiny dent etc, and are near full price, all the way down to 'G5' (I think) which will be something with a major structural or performance or longevity issue, which can be had for £50. So a 'G5' Rogue would have started life as a G1 cleft when originally graded before manufacture  began.

Yeh, it is terribly complicated.
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Re: In a dilemma...
« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2010, 09:10:14 PM »
Quote from: jonpinson on December 01, 2010, 09:02:21 PM
Ah, this proves my point perfectly, we've got our wires crossed.

Let us assume for the rest of this that all willow destined for Salix bats is G1.

Now, when for whatever reason, a bat is identified as one destined to be a Rogue, Salix operate a Rogue specific grading system dependant on the seriousness of the flaw that is found. The 'G1' Rogues might have a minor visual imperfection, tiny dent etc, and are near full price, all the way down to 'G5' (I think) which will be something with a major structural or performance or longevity issue, which can be had for £50. So a 'G5' Rogue would have started life as a G1 cleft when originally graded before manufacture  began.

Yeh, it is terribly complicated.

Yes, you are kinda correct.

but I don't think when they grade Rogue the grading system changes. I mean have a look at the following bat;

http://uzisports.com/product_info.php?cPath=30_195&products_id=697

This bat was always a performance stick and so due to imperfection it went to rogue bin where the grade remained the same but the price depends on the damage. Basically the cheaper a rogue bigger damage it will have and vice versa.

Very complicated.
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