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Re: Can i have all the prices of the forum sponsors here in one topic...
« Reply #75 on: January 06, 2011, 10:39:59 AM »

Your right though bang out of order charging £270 for a bat when the Clefts only cost £40

Especially as Tools,Labour,Utilities Tax etc all come free

Tom I'm disgusted!!  ;) ;)

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« Reply #76 on: January 06, 2011, 10:42:51 AM »

Following on from what Frandonegan said,

Just remember the time cost to make a bat should be considered - If a lawyer charges an hourly rate of typically around £250 - the fact that a bat maker typically charges around £80 per hour to make a bat is not unreasonable - plus a bat gives a lot more pleasure than a lawyer (unless you are dating or married to one...! ;))
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Re: Can i have all the prices of the forum sponsors here in one topic...
« Reply #77 on: January 06, 2011, 10:43:59 AM »

Following on from what Frandonegan said,

Just remember the time cost to make a bat should be considered - If a lawyer charges an hourly rate of typically around £250 - the fact that a bat maker typically charges around £80 per hour to make a bat is not unreasonable - plus a bat gives a lot more pleasure than a lawyer (unless you are dating or married to one...! ;))

Brilliant!
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« Reply #78 on: January 06, 2011, 10:48:52 AM »

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All i saying and being a advocate of James Laver work but not the prices  in the past the more you look into it the more you start thinking

All i saying and this is not aimed at Tom but how come bat a cost so much yet bat b cost 100 pound cheaper yet is made by the same grade of wood from the same Timber yard.


I understand overheads and other out going ie players fee and such as overheads
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Re: Can i have all the prices of the forum sponsors here in one topic...
« Reply #79 on: January 06, 2011, 10:53:56 AM »

I guess their only worth what people are prepared to pay for them.
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Re: Can i have all the prices of the forum sponsors here in one topic...
« Reply #80 on: January 06, 2011, 10:55:03 AM »

Buzz

All i saying and being a advocate of James Laver work but not the prices  in the past the more you look into it the more you start thinking

All i saying and this is not aimed at Tom but how come bat a cost so much yet bat b cost 100 pound cheaper yet is made by the same grade of wood from the same Timber yard.


I understand overheads and other out going ie players fee and such
Probably the same reason why the Fred Perry plimsoles I got the other day can be £45 but I saw a pair almost identical for £15
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« Reply #81 on: January 06, 2011, 10:58:05 AM »

big companys charge big money because of the marketing they need to pay for and the amount of workforce invloved!

for instance puma...

when rob pack is making bats for puma the top end bats retail at £280

when rob can produce the 100% same bat as a blueroom and sell it for £180 as well as making him self a profit

so your paying an extra 100 just for the name
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Re: Can i have all the prices of the forum sponsors here in one topic...
« Reply #82 on: January 06, 2011, 11:03:28 AM »

And there my point exactly Simmy lad

I mean some of the big brands who the hell are they who makes there bats

I guess that my point the further you look into things and get a greater understanding of things the greater you see some of the rubbish the bigger brand try to con you out of your hard earned reddies.....

My point was after a talk with Pete Hosk the more you delv into things the harder it is to make a choice of what bat to buy because unlike most things THE PRICE OF A CRICKET BAT DOES NOT GUARANTEE THE QUALITY AT ALL

No wonder more and more Indian Made bats are sold in the Uk because the bigger brands in my eyes are ripping people off

Somebody asked me the other week why i only use smaller brands because they have smaller prices i told them...
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Re: Can i have all the prices of the forum sponsors here in one topic...
« Reply #83 on: January 06, 2011, 11:04:06 AM »

Rob doesn't sell to a retailer, he sells direct to the consumer. That's a huge proportion of the RRP dropped straight away
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Re: Can i have all the prices of the forum sponsors here in one topic...
« Reply #84 on: January 06, 2011, 11:06:24 AM »

never thought of that tom..

we see bats in shops at £280+

but guess thats because the shop has to make money as well as the company.

but its like anything in the world

brand names cost more than something else.

a tshirt will cost 2 quid to make but because it has a fancy logo on it they can charge 40 quid.

thats not fair but yet no body moans about that.

its the same with cricket bats
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Re: Can i have all the prices of the forum sponsors here in one topic...
« Reply #85 on: January 06, 2011, 11:07:52 AM »

Ok then Tom a direct question

Why should i spend £270 pound on one of your bats when i can get a custom made one for £180 to my spec in the same grade of wood

Both cost the same from the supplier

So if were led to think it were paying the rest for some fancy stickers


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« Reply #86 on: January 06, 2011, 11:10:39 AM »

Dave the easy answer is because you like the brand and want the uniqueness of the product.

In your case you aren't that keen so go elsewhere. You are also aware of the posibilities of buying a bat direct from a smaller company, so factor that into your consideration, not everyone is that luckey
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Re: Can i have all the prices of the forum sponsors here in one topic...
« Reply #87 on: January 06, 2011, 11:11:30 AM »

Buzz

All i saying and being a advocate of James Laver work but not the prices  in the past the more you look into it the more you start thinking

All i saying and this is not aimed at Tom but how come bat a cost so much yet bat b cost 100 pound cheaper yet is made by the same grade of wood from the same Timber yard.


I understand overheads and other out going ie players fee and such as overheads
As Buzz says, it's basic accounting...

I suspect the best comparison you can make is M&H and Laver. Both considered top quality in their countries, and priced accordingly in their local currency. To us here, the M&H is cheaper because of the exchange rate, but the actual value of the currency in the producer's pocket is approximately the same in its buying power locally.

Equally, as described, if you pay KP, Bell and a.n.other to play with your kit then your marketing budget and other people cost is huge... but that's already been covered.

You could also ask why the top grade willow bats cost more than the lower grade willow bats. The batmaking costs are the same, but is there really (taking the GN Oblivion as an example) £100 difference between a grade 2 and top grade willow? No, but people will pay more for the perceived rarity of the higher quality goods. Supply and demand at work.
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Re: Can i have all the prices of the forum sponsors here in one topic...
« Reply #88 on: January 06, 2011, 11:12:01 AM »

Would you pay your neibour or someone else £2 to cut your hair just because they had a pair of siscors!!
If you get my drift
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Re: Can i have all the prices of the forum sponsors here in one topic...
« Reply #89 on: January 06, 2011, 11:13:53 AM »

The market though must be getting saturated though which is a good thing by littler brands.

A good topic i not having a go at anybody quality here it just i am  looking for a bat and never rely thought about it till now cost and such must be the economy

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