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[Tom]

Sorry MCC laws which the ICC police??

Both police. And it's hardly a loophole created by the MCC - laminates are illegal under all the laws (you can't even repair etc)

[uknsaunders]

Indeed, look at the Asian Lekkas that were recently for sale. 2'9 and 40mm edges. I'm sorry that isn't art in batmaking, it is over drying. Sure they look imposing but it comes at a cost.

Touched on this already - unless you have proof, word your comments carefully.

[jonpinson]

Touched on this already - unless you have proof, word your comments carefully.

The proof is in the pictures. Im not suggesting the Lekkas are laminate, they are not. The statement apply generally to bats today. Monster bats with low weight are made from low density (that is low moisture) wood. There is no magical batmaking technique that has suddenly allowed bats to double in size without an increase in weight. Indeed Laver advertises it as an option. They will give a cleft a secondary drying period in order to be able to create a bigger bat for the same weight. They also say they will not guarantee it for so long. So an admission that more drying means less life.

 Think when we see a pro with a bat that seems big and goes well, we are more likely seeing one of these dry bats as opposed to a laminate.

[procricket]

I can make a original 3lb bat and get it to 2lb 6oz in 6 weeks without taking any wood off at all..

Called a airing cupboard and constant heat then bingo and to be honest the performance is the same but durability is worst than a Kashmir

The truth is there not many so called Low density clefts around and even less availble to us mortals.

After all the talk of this that and the other i care about 3 things

1.The Pick up
2.The performance
3.The feel

I after doing experiments have no time for Laminates/ Low density or any of that thing

Do not get me wrong having a nice looking stick is good too but it plain and simple if a bat has a big middle and do es not feel to heavy then i'am happy..

The biggest cost of a cricket bat by most brands is the look of the thing

Laminations good ones are very rare too do not be fooled most are made to make a bad looking bat look better

[keysersolze]

Trying to this topic back on track guys!!! This comment going out to any GM workers who read this forum maybe Mr Lowry is it of GM any chance we could have a look see at Shane Watsons bat?? I personally am a admirer of his cricket skills and being a self confessed bat nerd would love to see a newish GM pro players bat. Having recently refurbed a Trescothic GM i was very impressed also it would be nice to put this laminate thing to rest. PS guys any more photos of the GM factory knocking around?

[awp]

Trying to this topic back on track guys!!! This comment going out to any GM workers who read this forum maybe Mr Lowry is it of GM any chance we could have a look see at Shane Watsons bat?? I personally am a admirer of his cricket skills and being a self confessed bat nerd would love to see a newish GM pro players bat. Having recently refurbed a Trescothic GM i was very impressed also it would be nice to put this laminate thing to rest. PS guys any more photos of the GM factory knocking around?

me too! that's what we're after, as many details about Watto's bat specs as possible, and differences (if any) between his test match bat and ODI bat, the ODI bat looks bigger/heavier.  more than one bat nerd on here

[pacman75cricket]

Aren't we all bat nerds be interesting to hear the differences & why