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The Black Cat Joker - does it live up to its name?
« on: January 26, 2011, 08:45:57 AM »

Following last week's net with the Mongoose, I took the Joker along to last night's session. With the slightly narrower but longer blade versus the mongoose I thought it would be an interesting comparison.

The first guy to bat asked if he could borrow it, and it became immediately obvious that he was forgetting how to bat and having a slog, so we told him to calm down and play some cricket shots. This improved his performance no end, and it looked like he was enjoying himself with it. I was up next and as he walked out, his comment was "It's still tricky to play shorter stuff with it!". Unfortunately this was overheard by a couple of people, who, although not especially quick, can bowl a nasty bouncer.

Cue the barrage of short stuff. Well, not quite. I received a fair amount of decently pitched balls, and the spinner took a hammering after I started watching his hand, pinging one straioght back down the pitch and narrowly missing someone's head. As with the Mongoose, in this fashion, it worked very well, and I'd have no worries about using it on most of the pitches we play on.

What about the short stuff? Well I received bouncers, leg side long hops and an interesting left arm bouncer that went past me outside off. In most cases, hooking, pulling and upper cutting worked a treat and I was more worried that anything hitting my helmet would give me the protection that an Ayrtek would. I felt reasonably comfortable with the way that I was hitting them (although to be fair, I'm never that comfortable against short stuff), and got a couple of humungus hooks in that flew off the middle. In that respect, for such a large bat I was able to wristily flick in a way that I was quite surprised at. It felt a reasonably nimble bat to use and seemed to enjoy this kind of approach. I guess that due to the "Harrow-sized" blade, it doesn't have quite as much inertia as you are expecting.

Other batsmen also wanted a go, and seemed to enjoy themselves quite a bit, although one of them was timing it so badly last night that he managed to edge the ball using the edge and the back of the bat. Lovely seam shaped dent there now!

So what's my conclusion? Well, I was very impressed. It does have an enormous middle and I haven't hit a straight lofted drive quite as hard as that one last night. There's a real "crack" noise in the air when you batter one, and once again, it's very fulfilling to be able to hit the ball so hard! A good confidence booster by any estimation. I also learned that against the short ball, it performed admirably, and I was battering a lot of the stuff I was receiving! It also doesn't attract the cries of derision that an MMi3 seems to get, so people just look at it and go "Wow that's a big bat".

I guess I should answer the question I posed in the subject, and I'd say that yes it does. People think you are having a laugh with a smaller bat, but the joke is on them!

I'm not going to draw conclusions yet between the MMi3 and the Joker, as I also have a Bulldog SpiriT20 to have a go with, and with the knocking in taking place on Sunday evening for that, I'll post a review and then a comparison of all three bats next week.
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Re: The Black Cat Joker - does it live up to its name?
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2011, 09:04:50 AM »

Nice view again Tim, must be lovely to be able to afford 3 decently priced bats like that, as well as a decent range of others! Good to hear the positivity coming from the Joker owners!

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Re: The Black Cat Joker - does it live up to its name?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2011, 09:07:21 AM »

i absolutely love my joker, only used it against the bowling machine.... but it does seem a very powerful bat and it picks up beautifully for such a masive bat...

if i nick one behind i do think i may have got away with that with my other bat although when i hit one out of the screws i think its worth the gamble, and the ones i narrowly miss i think i may have edged that with a different bat so its swings and round abouts i guess....

all in all what a bat :)
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Re: The Black Cat Joker - does it live up to its name?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2011, 09:32:21 AM »

Nice view again Tim, must be lovely to be able to afford 3 decently priced bats like that, as well as a decent range of others! Good to hear the positivity coming from the Joker owners!
Don't think I've paid RRP (or to be fair, full whack) for most of them. Managed to find a couple of bargains with the MMi and the Joker.
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Re: The Black Cat Joker - does it live up to its name?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2011, 10:29:42 AM »

So the Joker is just a shorter blade than a regular bat but not as short as an MMi3 (almost like a COR3)
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Re: The Black Cat Joker - does it live up to its name?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2011, 10:34:38 AM »

There is a flip side to the outside edge view. If you play and miss with the Joker, you may have edged it behind with a normal sized bat.

It's a trade off. If you back yourself to not edge behind you should get more value for your shots.

They do have excellent pick up though

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Re: The Black Cat Joker - does it live up to its name?
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2011, 10:35:06 AM »


it is indeed a shorter blade with a longer handle and is also slightly narrower

do we know of any pro's that use a joker in one day or T20 cricket ??
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Re: The Black Cat Joker - does it live up to its name?
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2011, 10:40:08 AM »

Is there any reason you've bought an MMi3, a joker and the Bulldog t20 bat? Id the idea to see which one you prefer and then sell the others?
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Re: The Black Cat Joker - does it live up to its name?
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2011, 10:58:13 AM »

Is there any reason you've bought an MMi3, a joker and the Bulldog t20 bat? Id the idea to see which one you prefer and then sell the others?
I play a fair amount of T20 over the summer, and the pitches are mostly low bounce, so I thought it would be interesting to see which was the most effective. Equally, they are a bit of "New shiny bat idea" and I had some cash I could use, and try them for the experience.

The likelihood is that I'll try them all in the nets, and then sell on the one I like least or I think I'll use the least.
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Re: The Black Cat Joker - does it live up to its name?
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2011, 11:03:01 AM »

Ah ok, always nice to have a problem like this one :)
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Re: The Black Cat Joker - does it live up to its name?
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2011, 11:22:39 AM »

Ah ok, always nice to have a problem like this one :)
Very happy to have it  :D
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Re: The Black Cat Joker - does it live up to its name?
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2011, 06:31:35 PM »

Tim, what are the weights of the three bats?

I have been seriously considering getting a joker, or maybe a bulldog T20. Still not sure about dealing with the short stuff though.

Did you find that you were pulling/hooking the ball more than you would normally? If so, do you think that's because you felt more confident with the Joker, or just that defending the short stuff is tricky with the shorter/narrower blade?
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Re: The Black Cat Joker - does it live up to its name?
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2011, 06:40:14 PM »

Tim, what are the weights of the three bats?

I have been seriously considering getting a joker, or maybe a bulldog T20. Still not sure about dealing with the short stuff though.

Did you find that you were pulling/hooking the ball more than you would normally? If so, do you think that's because you felt more confident with the Joker, or just that defending the short stuff is tricky with the shorter/narrower blade?
I'd say that having less wood in front of you makes you realise that you have to get some wood on it, and as a result you move your feet around that much more and get something in the way. It didn't help that most of the short stuff was at my body/head at a height where defending would have been difficult anyway.

MMi is 2.11, Joker is 2.12.

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Re: The Black Cat Joker - does it live up to its name?
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2011, 08:19:15 PM »

I really want one of either of these but the more I think about it, as a fairly defensively minded bat it is pretty pointless.
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Re: The Black Cat Joker - does it live up to its name?
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2011, 08:44:30 PM »

Remember the Bulldog SpiriT20 is has only an inch shorter blade and is a normal standard bat width, so best of both in my opinion.
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