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Companies => Off-the-shelf companies => Gunn & Moore => Topic started by: Talisman on March 03, 2011, 10:04:42 AM

Title: Question for GM
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2011, 10:04:42 AM: Hi Edward,

I was just wondering why GM don't appear to be acting to stop the sale of fake stickers on ebay. Each year there are more and more being sold along with other brands and only GN seem to take this seriously and as part of the ebay Vero program get them pulled. I'm sure that the sale of fakes must in some way damage not only sales but also brand image, it is something you are aware of and/or planning to deal with?
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2011, 10:08:49 AM: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300531683715&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1156

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GM-Icon-DXM-original-cricket-bat-stickers-/300530102487?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Cricket&hash=item45f8fd70d7#ht_500wt_1156

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GM-Flare-Original-L-E-2011-Cricket-Stickers-Rare-/200581620025?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Cricket&hash=item2eb398a139#ht_500wt_1156

These are 3 UK based sets being sold currently but as these appear to be copying the 2011 stickers I would expect a flood of them over the next 2 months.
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: tommo256 on March 03, 2011, 10:09:35 AM: I saw that the fake GM that everyone was talking about has been removed from ebaym, dont know whether that was from people asking questions or a GM thing
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: Edward Lowy on March 03, 2011, 11:12:32 AM: Quote from: Talisman on March 03, 2011, 10:04:42 AM
Hi Edward,

I was just wondering why GM don't appear to be acting to stop the sale of fake stickers on ebay. Each year there are more and more being sold along with other brands and only GN seem to take this seriously and as part of the ebay Vero program get them pulled. I'm sure that the sale of fakes must in some way damage not only sales but also brand image, it is something you are aware of and/or planning to deal with?

GM will defend its intellectual property ruthlessly. And we do.

However, from time to time, outbreaks seem to occur like forest fires. We are on the case.

Kind regards

Edward
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: roco on March 03, 2011, 11:14:15 AM: Well just keep checking here as people seem to spot them straight away
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2011, 12:04:20 PM: Quote from: Edward Lowy on March 03, 2011, 11:12:32 AM
GM will defend its intellectual property ruthlessly. And we do.

However, from time to time, outbreaks seem to occur like forest fires. We are on the case.

Kind regards

Edward

I'm glad to hear it, I've had a few friends buy "bargains" on ebay only to wonder if the the bat was real, which it wasn't, and I have come across 2 GM "Originally" LE bats in my own club last season.
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: keysersolze on March 03, 2011, 12:29:59 PM: Well done guys for highlighting it to Ed and E bay should crack down on the rubish on their web site as if friends ask me if they should buy a bat of e bay i say buyer beware as 90% of it is probably fake. And if you look on this forum you get some great deals far better than e bay. and "Originally" thats a good one lol. As surely if e bay becomes a market of cheap or poor imitations of quality goods genuine sellers or purchasers will stop using it.
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: SempreSami on March 03, 2011, 12:46:20 PM: They aren't even doing that good a job of copying the stickers, I mean, those 'Icon' ones have got the rear graphic of the Flare.
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2011, 11:36:28 PM: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GM-Cannon-Original-Limited-Eddition-Cricket-BAT-/170611209759?pt=UK_SportingGoods_CricketBats_SM&hash=item27b938761f#ht_1139wt_1139

Another fake? doesn't look real to me, maybe the plastic wrap I failed to spot being applied in the factory?
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: Colesy on March 03, 2011, 11:42:20 PM: I think it's fake
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: alexrickyponting on March 03, 2011, 11:44:30 PM: I thought it was against the forum rules to post links to fakes no? ???
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2011, 11:56:15 PM: I'm highlighting a fake bat on eBay to prevent it being sold unknowingly to a forum member. It should also go on the huge eBay tat thread.
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: Colesy on March 04, 2011, 12:00:37 AM: Should we have an 'eBay don'ts' thread or something similar as the eBay tat thread just highlights the poor products sold on there.
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: Talisman on March 04, 2011, 06:39:21 PM: Another interesting GM, endorsed by Michael Voughan!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GM-CATALYST-ORIGINAL-L-E-ENGLISH-WILLO-CRICKET-BAT-SALE-/200582929123?pt=AU_Cricket_Sporting_Equipment&hash=item2eb3ac9ae3#ht_12428wt_1049
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: ProWannabe88 on March 04, 2011, 06:43:30 PM: They seem to be getting worse everytime I see one.
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: Colesy on March 05, 2011, 11:01:20 PM: I have a question..
Do GM make bats for pros who are not sponsored by GM?
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: Alvaro on March 05, 2011, 11:04:36 PM: you'll be lucky to get an answer to that one, Joe :)
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: jonpinson on March 05, 2011, 11:06:48 PM: Agreed that you may not get an answer, but it is an interesting one. If small makers make bats for pros that are re labelled, whats stopping the big boys doing the same thing? Good one that.
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: Colesy on March 05, 2011, 11:07:23 PM: Worth a shot and Edward has been honest with us so I'm keeping my hopes up :)
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: Edward Lowy on March 06, 2011, 12:30:14 AM: Quote from: Colesy on March 05, 2011, 11:01:20 PM
I have a question..
Do GM make bats for pros who are not sponsored by GM?

No we don't Colesy. Emphatically not!
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: Colesy on March 06, 2011, 12:32:34 AM: Ok thank you :)
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: Alvaro on March 07, 2011, 01:14:07 PM: lucky so-and-so ;)
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: snafu on March 07, 2011, 01:45:32 PM: Why would they want to?
Why make a good bat then advertise it as one of your competitors,giving them free advertising
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: kalph on March 07, 2011, 06:58:29 PM: not saying they couldnt purchase a gm ans sticker it up?
Title: Re: Question for GM
Post by: SempreSami on March 07, 2011, 10:11:26 PM: Quote from: kalph on March 07, 2011, 06:58:29 PM
not saying they couldnt purchase a gm ans sticker it up?
This is true, I recall when I was doing my rounds at the Oval during my volunteering at the World Twenty20 in 09 and I could swear that I passed a West Indies player with an Icon that had had a few of its labels removed.