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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: FattusCattus on March 21, 2011, 08:44:15 PM

Title: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: FattusCattus on March 21, 2011, 08:44:15 PM
Hello Chaps,

Was gonna bung a hammer edge on the new SS, but can't remember if I should give it a coat of oil or not before hand?

Should it be:

Oil
Let it dry
Bung on Harry Hammers
Knock it in?
Title: Re: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: Colesy on March 21, 2011, 08:45:14 PM
Oil, knock-in, hammer edge.

My normal routine.
Title: Re: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: uknsaunders on March 21, 2011, 08:46:15 PM
no - the anti scuff will keep the moisture in. Only apply to the toe where no anti-scuff exists. Chris from Kippax told me that.

I'm assuming the hammer edge covers the whole face of the bat?
Title: Re: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: Liam-SCCC on March 21, 2011, 08:46:54 PM
If you have time then oil, leave for 3 days. Again oil leave for 3 days. Knock it in, then light sand and then apply the scuff sheet
Title: Re: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on March 21, 2011, 08:49:58 PM
no need for oil if ur puttin a scuff sheet on it fattus! its an either or scenario
Title: Re: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: norbs on March 21, 2011, 08:59:45 PM
Technically oil keeps the bat at it's moisture content. It shouldn't' be used to add moisture as it will loosen the fibres. So therefore if putting scuff you don't need to oil.  Just oil the rest of it or at the end of season. That all said doesn't make a huge difference if you oil it and the put scuff on if it has dried
Title: Re: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: haider-k on March 21, 2011, 09:18:51 PM
what about bat wax? Oil, then bat wax and scuff sheet or no oil at all? Is bat wax just a substitute for oil?
Title: Re: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: Watsontotty on March 21, 2011, 10:05:20 PM
Think its a case of either or to be fair, ive done both and had no problems either way however a little oil first let it dry fully for a week then the scuff sheet and then some oil to the toe and the back of the bat but i only use small amounts.
Title: Re: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: harry kovert on March 21, 2011, 10:08:25 PM
what about bat wax? Oil, then bat wax and scuff sheet or no oil at all? Is bat wax just a substitute for oil?

Bat wax is simply linseed oil in a solid state so use one or the other rather than both.
Title: Re: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: Canners on March 21, 2011, 10:13:57 PM
i@ve always oiled my bats, knocked them in, 2 days later knocked it in, re applied a coat of oil and then added the scuff sheet a couple of days later
Title: Re: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: SkipperJ on March 22, 2011, 07:40:28 PM
Technically oil keeps the bat at it's moisture content. It shouldn't' be used to add moisture as it will loosen the fibres. So therefore if putting scuff you don't need to oil.  Just oil the rest of it or at the end of season. That all said doesn't make a huge difference if you oil it and the put scuff on if it has dried

Doesn't the oil also help soften the surface, so the fibres enmesh better during knocking?
Title: Re: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: Colesy on March 22, 2011, 07:42:02 PM
I find the edges are less likely to crack if the blade is oiled first
Title: Re: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: Mr Cricket on April 05, 2011, 07:31:59 PM
pointless to create new topic, i sanded down a bat on monday night, and have got some salix bat wax and an anti scuff sheet... what im thinking of doing is applying the scuff sheet and then giving the rest of the bat a fine layer of wax, is that how the bat makers would do it? or just apply the scuff with no oil or wax?
Title: Re: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: tim2000s on April 05, 2011, 07:38:34 PM
Treat the wax as though it were oil. Then reread the thread to see what people think!
Title: Re: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: Mr Cricket on April 05, 2011, 07:50:59 PM
i like to be 100% sure before i do anything with my bats, so i am asking in plain terms for an answer. just a touch confused that if we are so worried about the bat drying out, why would a scuff sheet stop it doing so (only covering some of the full surface area of the bat as it does) surely the exposed areas of the bat would release the moisture content over time, just as the face would unscuffed/unoiled. cant see an obvious answer to my question in the post so far so thats why i have asked. to oil rest of bat or not to oil rest of bat?
Title: Re: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: tim2000s on April 05, 2011, 08:10:02 PM
Yes oil the rest of the bat, one coat and if no toe guard, a couple there.
Title: Re: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: SkipperJ on April 05, 2011, 09:14:04 PM
Definitely apply the bat wax to the rest of the bat. If you have a few days time before using the bat, I'd say oil the bat face as well. Make sure the wax has dried before slapping on the scuff sheet, else it won't stick properly. (I have only used Linseed Oil and it takes a few days to dry, ideally a week. The Salix bat wax is just solid linseed oil, so there might not be much drying needed.)

After sanding the bat, the surface should look quite dry. Putting some oil on it would help make it supple. It'd be a good idea to also knock the bat in a little bit after applying the scuff sheet to "stiffen up" the newly exposed surface of the blade.

HTH  :)
Title: Re: Oil before Hammer Edge - whats the consensus?
Post by: Number4 on April 07, 2011, 07:57:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWBxiPJYvLw

Thought this might help