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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: Number4 on May 12, 2011, 12:49:51 PM
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Ok guys who is the best batsman technique wise that you like to watch. Past or Present
Mine would be Sunil Gavaskar
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Used to love watching Vaughan bat, as well as Sachin
However I could watch Trott, Gilchrist, Tresco and Sewhag bat all day
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If your talking on coaching book techniques then kallis all the way but for simple easy to watch sir viv
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For me it's Mike Hussey. But I also like watching Khawaja, Langer, Watson, Symonds and Trott.
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Vaughan, Bell and Trott maybe Haddin
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Used to love watching Vaughan bat, as well as Sachin
However I could watch Trott, Gilchrist, Tresco and Sewhag bat all day
I think you can see alot of Sunny Gavaskar in Sachin
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Bell and Sachin for me, techique stylie.
Bell when he's on form is just superb to watch!
And Sachin is simply sublime!
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I have to admit, as much as I don't like to, I quite like watching Alistair Cook bat.. As long as he isn't in for too long against us...lol
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AB De Villiers and Hildreth for me. Love watching them both play
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Ramps is good to watch. . .i like his style.
so many to mention. . . .the list would be endless. . . .but elegant players like
Mark Waugh and i used to love watching Carl Hooper bat.
Whose the most elegant player today???
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Bell and Sachin for me
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but add in Michael Clarke and AB De Villiers against spinners and Ramps - the best technition of his generation.
plus a young Brian Charles Lara and through in Steve Waugh for his sheer bloodymindedness - the ultimate mental approach to batting
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Ramps is good to watch. . .i like his style.
so many to mention. . . .the list would be endless. . . .but elegant players like
Mark Waugh and i used to love watching Carl Hooper bat.
Whose the most elegant player today???
An inform Ponting
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Mohammad Yousuf and Umar Akmal :D
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Mohammed Yousaf and Inzi were good too.
Going back . . . Gordon Greenidge. . . .now we're talking.
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Mohammed Yousaf and Inzi were good too.
Going back . . . Gordon Greenidge. . . .now we're talking.
What an opening pair Greenidge and Haynes
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Umar Akma . . i dont know what it is. . . .but i just dont like the guy's batting. he looks technically flawed. Not a test player for me.
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What an opening pair Greenidge and Haynes
They would eat most attacks for breakfast.
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I must admit that from an aggresive point of view, the likes of Hayden was a brutal batsman who was awesome! But add Gail, Pollard, Singh (Yuvraj) and Watson when they kick off and they are sooo much fun to watch! Umar Akmal is looking promising. And Morgan and Dilshan can also be fun!
Richards and Botham were always great to watch in years gone by!
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But if I have trouble sleeping, then watching Dravid in a test match! ???
Seriously a class batsman though!
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chris martin would be up there for sure
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Sachin/ Bell and theres something i like about Duminy
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Kallis/De Villiers always look in control, which I like
Best technique to watch was always Matthew Hayden, smashing the ball straight down the ground.
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Umar Akma . . i dont know what it is. . . .but i just dont like the guy's batting. he looks technically flawed. Not a test player for me.
Won't say Umar Akmal's technique is flawed but I'd say his temperament is flawed, he has all ingredients to be a star but he just need to sort his brain out and play sensible.
Umar Akmal reminds me of Inzi a lot like him!
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I remember watching Thorpe bat for nearly 2 days against the spinners in Pakistan on sky sports all them years ago.
Genius
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I would also mention Saeed Anwar here! What a player he was!! Gosh he is the best timer of the ball I have ever seen in my life! Excellent player and much better person indeed!
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Mohammad Azharuddin - The Best Wrists ever
Brian Lara - What else can I say.
Johnathan Trott - He is class apart
Sachin Tendulkar - Well he is just summat else.
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How about the brutal Clive Lloyd
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Lets not forget Don Bradman and Viv Richards
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Lets not forget Don Bradman and Viv Richards
You must be a fair age to be able to have watched Bradman bat...hehehe
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Loved watching Vaughan bat, oozes class at the crease.
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You must be a fair age to be able to have watched Bradman bat...hehehe
Nah mate... not that old hehehe.....
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Get your laughing gear round this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7d-If78gjI
Look up the word textbook and you'll find this mate
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One just has to watch the re run of bodyline ;) ;) ;) ;)
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I like this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tbAg0Mr1_M&NR=1&feature=fvwp
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Kim Barnett - beautiful technique ;)
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Get your laughing gear round this
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7d-If78gjI[/url]
Look up the word textbook and you'll find this mate
My mate used this in his dissertation, as the perfect example of a cover drive. Perfect shot
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDJsT16-NfU
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Kim Barnett - beautiful technique ;)
I grew up watching Gloucs ruin everyone in one day cricket. Barnett, Russell, Harvey, Alleyne, Snape, Hancock etc
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Saeed Anwar / Ponting for me. For me a lack of shots does not constitute a good technique.
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Sanjay Manjrekar, VVS Laxman, Misbah Ul Haq
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Misbah Ul Haq
Slightly leftfield for a technical guru!
for out and out great to watch add in - Mosin Khan or David Gower - but neither were technical guru's.
The problem with Ponting is that although his is a great player - techincally he isn't that great - he plants his front foot horribly and is a happy hooker to the short ball. Now I realise that has bought him about a million international runs, but my point is if you are looking at the MCC coaching book, Kallis, Ramps, Bell would be examples used first.
If you want an example of how to be a modern day international batsman then Ponting is pretty much second on the list (after a short ar5e Indian bloke ;))
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How about yardy or chanderpaul?
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Kevin Pieterson and Andrew Flintoff were brilliant to watch at their prime, they both mixed up slogging the ball over the pavilion with good defensive shot play and added lots of flair (Such as reverse sweep 6)
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No mention of Brian Lara yet? He's got to be up there!
Allan Border? Martin Crowe? They deserve a mention.....both very, very good technically.
Mind you technique doesn't score you runs, it does help but look at the likes of Sir Viv, Greenidge, Haynes, Thorpe, G Smith etc, none have textbook techniques and yet all score/scored heavily....Smith's technique truly sucks but it seems to work for him..... :)
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Yeah, I think that in terms of pure defensive ability, Michael Hussey looks like the one guy who can put the brick wall up and just be unmovable, due to his sound defense.
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No mention of Brian Lara yet? He's got to be up there!
Allan Border? Martin Crowe? They deserve a mention.....both very, very good technically.
Mind you technique doesn't score you runs, it does help but look at the likes of Sir Viv, Greenidge, Haynes, Thorpe, G Smith etc, none have textbook techniques and yet all score/scored heavily....Smith's technique truly sucks but it seems to work for him..... :)
Dhoni also scores runs with a technique which looks like something you would find from a amateur Sunday league player...
I guess this shows that having the correct techers isn't always necessary to score runs, you just need to work that little bit harder.
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Ramps, Bell, Vaughan and Kallis
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Tendulkar is just something else
Yes his technique is great, but he has added his own twist
If a youngster walked across outside off stump and flicked the ball through the on side what would coaches say ??
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For me Ian Bell is my favourite to watch, he's just beautiful when he's at his best!
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Geoffrey Boycott!! Legend ;)
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Vaughan in his purple patch was immense to watch, loved that cover drive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOxOI-jPMn8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOxOI-jPMn8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yhocX18_VA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yhocX18_VA&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu72YjgZE2s&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu72YjgZE2s&feature=related)
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Brian Charles Lara absolute legend and the most pleasing batsmen ever, Mark Butcher in his pomp and Tresco in his pomp
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Not much rivals the bowling machine daze that is Shane Watson technically not a lot beats him in world cricket Technique wise
Kallis is another both very repeatable and both very coached batsman
Tendulkar is Tendulkar
Lara was a one off and i would not try to coach his backlift so
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Phil Hughes. He has perfected the jump and cut approach.
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yes now were talking
greenidge and haynes not many touch them only perhaps langer and hayden
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Dave chill your getting this topic confused ? its about the best technique and best batsmen to watch not pairs and by the way LARA
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Kallis and Wtson will do for me there role models when coaching kids and technique wise i would like to see better
Sorry i get excited when people are talking about greenidge and haybes both in there own right great technitions as well and as good as any on the list..
Lara was good and in a period a great one off technique for sure
Watson and Kallis are collousis technical batsman who i would encourage kids to watch and learn
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Of players still playing, Bell has the best technique imo by some way. He is a joy to watch in full flight.
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he is certianly up there for sure...
Gatting rated him the best junior he has ever seen
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Watson technique is totally floored hence as many LBW decisions so massively disagree and don't know where your coming from on this one, agree haynes and greenidge were class no issue but Watson ? class name nothing else
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look at his stats not as many lbw as you think but i was at a coaching seminar recently who rated his technique very highly and in some area he is almost flawless.
Not one player in world cricket hit the ball through covers and mid off like him but i guess it is opinion
He technique is one area i think Watson can not be questioned on at all.
But each to there own Watson's figure of nine or diamond is as good as anybodys
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Absolute tosh in everything you say WATSON as good as any batsmen ever born ? wake the hell up Dave sorry your talking crap
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No i saying Watson has a very good technique proved by the amount of runs he has scored and the manner he has scored them..
He has a very good technique abd currently for me he and Kallis and Tendulkar are great technitions to watch
His only 2 weaknesses are back foot and his mentality..
Sorry Rich if you disagree maybe you would if i bought the pads and gloves from you.. :D
Watsons driving is as good as any in world cricket at the minute and textbook so yes technically he is good to watch..
Can not stand the guy but he is a good fluid batsman
And figure of nine and diamonds there not many better i would call his feet his arms and his head not much can touch him when driving and if your coaching a kid his modle would be the one i would show
Oh and no i not saying he is the best batsman to of ever lived just a sound technique and one i admire due to the hard work he has had to put into it.
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Dave i couldn't care less if you bought pads and gloves from me or not as well you should know however your talking crap m8 sorry.
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Cheers Rich as per you know best...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/shane-watson-moulded-by-video-montage/story-e6frf9if-1225939348811
far from the finished player but his transformastion has been very good i expect him to get better..
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Haynes Greenidge LARA Tendulkar Hayden Kallis Bradman ect ect all greats of the game and then Watson ? think about it Dave decent cricketer but thats it
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thought we was talking technique i doubt most of the forum have not seen most of the players you list..
Sorry i'm going off a coaching tangent which i should of impeaded
Watson is a good model for the young cricketer to watch.
His technique and that alone is out of manuel and is coached by most coaches especially his front foot play.
He is a very coached batsman for sure
And in hindsight possibly JohnG shout of technique is Ian Bell he plays off back and fron up there with the best
Yes the players you name are world class not just now but in any genre but you would not getting a coach trying to coach the Lara backlift for sure.
Maybe i mis understood the qiestion for that i apoligixe but technique wise i would watch Watson currently in world cricket for certain aspects of batting
I think allround johng makes a very valid point about Bell from a coaching propective
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Geoffrey Boycott!! Legend ;)
And guess what, Boycott totally agrees with you just ask him LOL!!! :D
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Watson technique is totally floored hence as many LBW decisions so massively disagree and don't know where your coming from on this one, agree haynes and greenidge were class no issue but Watson ? class name nothing else
Remember Watson is batting out of position and fell into the opening spot in 2009 as there was no one else to fill it. He is a number 4 or 5 and therefore, his technique is adequate for that position but agree his technique is floored for an opener, Hussey should be opening but we are asking Cricket Australia to make a good and right decision, not in your or my lifetime
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his average suggests otherwise though but i guess it all opinions i'm sure he is averaging 50 as a opener what do you want...
I beleive he was batting around 7 or 8 for Australia ave around 19.0
Sounds to me his average and technique have improved and i think it his opening partner you Aussie's should be worried about
I mean the joker left hander who plays for NSW come on :o
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his average suggests otherwise though but i guess it all opinions i'm sure he is averaging 50 as a opener what do you want...
I beleive he was batting around 7 or 8 for Australia ave around 19.0
Sounds to me his average and technique have improved and i think it his opening partner you Aussie's should be worried about
I mean the joker left hander who plays for NSW come on :o
Hughes is a question of what technique, he is an embarrassment
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jayawardene
kohli
bell
sangakkara
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Anyone remember Aravinda DeSilva from Sri Lanka? He was top notch. And Nathan Astle from New Zealand.
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Watson technique is totally floored hence as many LBW decisions so massively disagree and don't know where your coming from on this one, agree haynes and greenidge were class no issue but Watson ? class name nothing else
Have you not seen Watson's Cover/Straight drive?
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watsons technique is very bad. he will really struggle against good quality short bowling. purple patch thats all. ofcourse his straight/cover drives are good, thats all he sets up for
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I don't think he has the best technique, but it certainly isn't bad. Purple patch over the last 2 years is the longest purple patch I've ever seen.
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I think because Watson is a bit of a "mechanical" batsman his technique looks worse than it is. He, like Ponting does plant his front foot a little, but he is showing more than a purple patch, i think he works very hard at his game and cares a lot about his performance (which is why he gets out in the 90's a lot).
Yes he can look ungainly, yes he hits a great drive no, technically he is no Ian Bell, but he is consistent and that is good.
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I don't think he has the best technique, but it certainly isn't bad. Purple patch over the last 2 years is the longest purple patch I've ever seen.
Took the words out of my mouth Langer.. Long bloody purple patch.. Bit of a slow start to his career in his first 8 tests from 2005 to 2008 but then after that very consistant indeed
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Thought some of the Kallis fans might like this vid.... Note the handle counter weight at the 4.04 min mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUsMC_k1Awg
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lol might have been a bit hasty in saying hes on a purple patch, but i truly dont think hes been properly tested yet. the technique imo is flawed, but he is doing very well with it so i guess i cant criticize ;p
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I love the way Thorpe batted, no mentions of Prior? I love his cover drive
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I think because Watson is a bit of a "mechanical" batsman his technique looks worse than it is. He, like Ponting does plant his front foot a little, but he is showing more than a purple patch, i think he works very hard at his game and cares a lot about his performance (which is why he gets out in the 90's a lot).
Yes he can look ungainly, yes he hits a great drive no, technically he is no Ian Bell, but he is consistent and that is good.
very much agree with your comments buzz about the mechanics and maybe that was my point he is a very coached batsman but what intregues me with him his natural ability in one day cricket.
He looks like a batsman who is fighting his natural urges when at the crease in test cricket.
And it is the mechanics i was on about by the coaching points.
No doubt i'm sure bumble mentioned it about the hours he must have done to make his cover/straight drive what it is..
Ref he has not been tested did do Pakistan and England not have a decent bowling attack i think they tested him all winter and he did ok.
Prior is a funny one he bats well in in the longer form but looks like a shorter form type of batter but in the shorter form can not do it.
I'm not Keieswetter biggest fan but on his form nobody can denie him a shot and i would give him a few not just a couple.
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Looks like Kieswetter is crapping his pants.. Check the footwork out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKWM84pADPE&feature=related
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Michael Clarke..
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Me.
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Me.
Wish I could say that but tommy has seen me bat :( :( :(
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Glad somebody mentioned Jayawardene and Sangakkara! :)
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On Watson.
AS someone said he is very mechanical, like alot of the Aussies (Clarke in particular). His first movement is to step forward. Which tells me to be honest he probably doesnt pick the ball up as well as a lot of world class batsman. He steps forward and just punches the ball hard. When he hits his drives well its as good as any batsman in the world.
But his technique is not perfect. Because of that forward movement he cuts and pulls off the front foot which is a bit unorthodox and you will notice in particular alot of hits cuts just fly through point to gully a fair little uncontrolled.
I think Ian Bell is delight to watch. Very light on his feet, clean striker, all the shots ... pretty textbook.
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Wish I could say that but tommy has seen me bat :( :( :(
hahaha, i have roco. but hey, im sayin nothin, that 6 at our place was absolutely unbelievable! haha.
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Kallis must be the most technically sound batsmen there is.
Mind you, on a crumbling wicket at Edgbaston, Yousuf was pure class.
I haven't seen Tendulkar bat in real life yet - just a short wait until August.
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For me it's Mike Hussey. But I also like watching Khawaja, Langer, Watson, Symonds and Trott.
I was quite surprised you put Trott there and not another Aussie like Ponting etc.
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Shivnarine Chanderpaul, how his technique has allowed him to score runs is beyond me. Worth watching just for that stance, don't particularly enjoy it other than that. Outcome wise, has to be Morgan or the Gilchrist of old. Am also a huge fan of Banger's stand and deliver method. Pure Class!!
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Ian Bell, Mohammad Yousuf, AB de Villiers and Jayawardene for me
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Yeah, I'm a massive fan of ABDV as well. If there was one sportsman I wish I could be, it would be him. Scratch golfer, offered to play tennis for USA, played full back for SA U-19s (I think), and runs the 100m in 10.7s. Touch of the green eyed monster comes into play.
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Rahul Dravid... Usman Khawaja is also quite sound
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Ian Bell or Marcus Trescothick, Bell is easy on the eye yet Trescothick is so simple at the crease but does so well!
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Kallis, Bell, Tendulkar, De Villiers,Kohli. Technically very sound players, plenty of similarities in their set ups as well. Very little that can go wrong and can be fixed quickly when it does. Not nearly as destructive as Sehwag, Gibbs,Yuvi, Gail, Gilchrest who score big when in form but all have the tendancy to have prolonged slumps because of their set ups.
Apart from Tendulkar i'd probably rather pay to see the last bunch! ;) Figure that!
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IMO Sachin is probably the best batsman the cricket world has seen...
..but I've yet to see anyone time the ball like Saeed Anwar. Absolute class in his day (1997 era)..
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im going to go for some players that are quite unusal choices , first of all owais shah , think owasis was a little unlucky in the england set up but when in full flow really enjoy watching him bat ,ryan ten doeschate my favourite player on the county circuit lol . sangakarra as well being a left hander great player to watch .