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General Cricket => Your Cricket => Topic started by: Cover_Drive on June 02, 2011, 09:00:18 PM
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I was always a slogger, I never played straight bat until this season and I did this because of all the bats I bought didn't want to misuse top end bats poorly.
Anyone else here feel pity for top end bats and refrain from slogging?
I have MB Malik Bubber Sher and LE so whenever I bat with them I am automatically slogging with them and they are the best bat for slogging in my opinon.
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i think a bat can help make you play a certain way, but i wouldnt say that its because of the grade of wood.... i think it depends on weight and pick up
for instance if i was using a heavy bat id eb more liekly to go for teh big shots and if i was using a light bat id be more inclined to try and stroke the ball around
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I would hope that most people play according to the ball they ate facing. That's what i (often unsuccessfully) try to do.
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I try to stroke the ball no matter what ball or bat I am facing. On my home pitch, which is usually quite bouncy, my bat (which has a high middle) comes into its own. The leg side shots are effortless. but I often struggle on away matches that have slow pitches. if you slog on slow pitches and miss-time the ball or fail to find the middle, then unless you have a MASSIVE bat, you are a gonner! ;)
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If you are thinking about the bat when you are batting you are thinking about the wrong thing.
No matter what I say here you will cry, but genuine advice, pick one bat and stick to it for the season. If you keep changing them up it is going to mess with your technique and timing. You'll be a better player for sticking to one and learning it, trust me. I also think you should concentrate more on basic technique rather than seemingly predetermining how you are going to play before you bat and choosing a bat accordingly.
To be honest it doesn't sound like your head is in the right place at all.
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I bat more confidently this year than any other season, and I reckons its mostly down to my bat. I feel comfortable hitting over the top, and know that even if I mistime the ball the ball will still clear the fielder (And sometimes the boundary!)
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Maybe I didn't sound well, I basically was asking does your playing style change with the bat?
I personally fear slogging with a 300 Pounds bat because it might break!
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Maybe a better question is 'Do people use the English language correctly?'
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Maybe a better question is 'Do people use the English language correctly?'
Good for you if you really do son.
What qualifications do you have in English language? A PHd?
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Good for you if you really do son.
What qualifications do you have in English language? A PHd?
Nope, but I was educated well and get increasingly annoyed at the destruction of our language.
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If you are thinking about the bat when you are batting you are thinking about the wrong thing.
No matter what I say here you will cry, but genuine advice, pick one bat and stick to it for the season. If you keep changing them up it is going to mess with your technique and timing. You'll be a better player for sticking to one and learning it, trust me. I also think you should concentrate more on basic technique rather than seemingly predetermining how you are going to play before you bat and choosing a bat accordingly.
To be honest it doesn't sound like your head is in the right place at all.
I agree 100%
its amazing what a difference it makes ebing happy with your bat at the crease tho
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I agree 100%
its amazing what a difference it makes ebing happy with your bat at the crease tho
Totally agree, feeling comfortable with all your kit, not just a bat, does remove any doubt from your mind when your batting and definitely improves performance. With the best gear, or at least the most comfortable you are only left with one thing to blame if you play poorly...........your own talent!
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If I was that concerned about my bat when facing, I'd never get the ball off the square.
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I only worry about playing at really wide ones in the nets.
I guess I shouldn't play them anyway - but I have hit the side of the nets with my bat once unfortunately!
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If you are thinking about the bat when you are batting you are thinking about the wrong thing.
No matter what I say here you will cry, but genuine advice, pick one bat and stick to it for the season. If you keep changing them up it is going to mess with your technique and timing. You'll be a better player for sticking to one and learning it, trust me. I also think you should concentrate more on basic technique rather than seemingly predetermining how you are going to play before you bat and choosing a bat accordingly.
To be honest it doesn't sound like your head is in the right place at all.
Great Advice!
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If you are thinking about the bat when you are batting you are thinking about the wrong thing.
No matter what I say here you will cry, but genuine advice, pick one bat and stick to it for the season. If you keep changing them up it is going to mess with your technique and timing. You'll be a better player for sticking to one and learning it, trust me. I also think you should concentrate more on basic technique rather than seemingly predetermining how you are going to play before you bat and choosing a bat accordingly.
To be honest it doesn't sound like your head is in the right place at all.
Cheers mate for once I agree with you lately :D
Thanks mate!
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Jonno. . .give yourself a pat on the back mate. . .some wise words there. i think the same way. even though i dont act upon it by having 5 bats.
you have to feel comfortable with the bat though.
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Maybe I didn't sound well, I basically was asking does your playing style change with the bat?
I personally fear slogging with a 300 Pounds bat because it might break!
That is crazy. A cricket bat has one use, to hit a leather ball in a game of cricket. Due to the nature of their manufacture,they do get damaged, they do break and no, they won't last forever.
Although the bats you have are very nice, they are not rare or difficult to replace. They are production models, nothing more. If you'd comissioned LW to make you a bat and have it gold plated, I'd understand your reluctance.
I fear (maybe too strong a word) that from the impression you are giving of late that your reasons for buying all these bats may be a little off. There is nothing wrong with wanting the best per se but what is the point of having the best if you are scared of using (and therefore damaging) them?
I advise you to follow Pete Hosk's example. He has some of the most sought after bats in the world, but not only does he think nothing of using them himself, he is perfectly happy to loan them out to his friends.
There is absolutely no point in spending all the money you have done just for them to look pretty leaning against your bedroom wall.
If you want to be precious about something you collect, cricket bats are not the thing to do it with.
Being brutally honest, your choice of bat is not the vital element in your cricketing success.
Please, just go out and enjoy your cricket, forget about the bat. Pick one, put it in your kit bag and use it until it breaks. Assuming it will last a season, you have enough to last you for 20 odd years before you need to buy a new bat.
To add to this, the bat collecting I understand. I did it myself, I not longer agree with it, but I see the attraction. What I really don't get is having 9 pairs of pads. There is absolutely no point.
Save your money. Enjoy and use what you have.
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Although the bats you have are very nice, they are not rare or difficult to replace. They are production models, nothing more. If you'd comissioned LW to make you a bat and have it gold plated, I'd understand your reluctance.
Jon, how did you find out about L&Ws Cenkos competitor? They haven't told anyone yet!
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Jon, how did you find out about L&Ws Cenkos competitor? They haven't told anyone yet!
He's the only person on L+W's special newsletter. He likes them that much. ;)
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Jon, how did you find out about L&Ws Cenkos competitor? They haven't told anyone yet!
I was offered it for a 'special' price. It's kashmir, and the gold plating is actually brass, but due to the LW stickers, it is worth every penny of the £10k asking price.
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Being brutally honest, your choice of bat is not the vital element in your cricketing success.
Please, just go out and enjoy your cricket, forget about the bat. Pick one, put it in your kit bag and use it until it breaks. Assuming it will last a season, you have enough to last you for 20 odd years before you need to buy a new bat.
Hi CD, pls listen to this great piece of advice from Jon! You will enjoy your cricket so much more when you are successful on the field. When you are scoring runs you could be doing it with a plank and i'd bet that you'd rather use that plank than any other bat. If you use the same enthusiasm that you apply to buying bats and equipment to your cricket i have no doubt that you will reap the rewards!
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I don't know if you are joking about the price, lol.
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I couldn't agree more with jon, the worst thing to do is to use a bat you dont fully trust. personally i only ever keep a maximum of 2 bats at any one time, 1 match bat and one back up in case anything happens. on previous occasions when i used other bats, namely my brothers (I have 4 brothers each with at least 3/4 bat, so plenty to choose from), i've been to pre-occupied by thinking about the bat rather than my batting.
as any batsmen will tell you concentration is a must when batting, a couple of Pakistani pros i met told me if you dont know your bat inside out, you are seriously handicapped. if i use a bat im not familiar with i would be hesitant to play certain shots as im not used to the subtle differences that are present between every bat, weight, pick up, size of middle etc. if i was to change my bat every couple of matches, i wouldn't get any consistency, one bat one season and maybe a different one in 20/20 and thats it.
but hey that is just me, and my opinion.
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It does seem as though everyone is agreed that you should really only have your match bat plus a.n.other....
Perhaps the man who can best demonstrate this to us is SRT himself, who has used and fixed the same bat on umpteen occasions, because he scores runs with it and knows it inside out...
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It does seem as though everyone is agreed that you should really only have your match bat plus a.n.other....
Perhaps the man who can best demonstrate this to us is SRT himself, who has used and fixed the same bat on umpteen occasions, because he scores runs with it and knows it inside out...
I remember Gilchrist and his wonder bat had a similar relationship here's what he said at the time, makes interesting reading :
"Gilchrist crashed his way to a famous 100 from 57 balls that day and knew the bat was something special.
"It's just the best bat I've ever had. We're spoilt for choice at this level, the sponsors look after us with quality bats, but this one in particular just felt great," Gilchrist said.
"I've really hung on to it and I've tried to sap every bit of life out of it."
Modern bats don't last that long, but Gilchrist has nursed the Wonder Bat as if it was an orphaned marsupial.
It has been glued and pinned and preserved at every turn. If staying up nights with a cold flannel and a bottle of milk would have done the trick, Gilchrist would have been there.
The axemen of the team will carry six or eight blades in their kit, but Gilchrist carries just three: the much-loved Wonder Bat, a practice bat and a spare.
Once he was aware just how good this model was, it was immediately excused from training. By the time last year's World Cup came around, it was starting to show some fragility.
"Occasionally I was using another bat in some of the earlier games just in the hope that I might be able to use that one in the finals. Unveil the Wonder Bat, if you like," he said with a laugh.
An insignificant squash ball placed inside the glove got a lot of exposure after Gilchrist smashed 149 from 104 balls (including 13 fours and eight sixes) in the World Cup final, but in his heart the batsman knew it was his trusty piece of willow that was responsible for his Homeresque epic.
Wonder Bat, like a loved shirt, has been hanging on to life by a thread or two.
It was there in Hobart when he hit his 100th six so far they had to put out an all points bulletin to find the ball."
Full article http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/gillys-wonder-bat-goes-out-with-bang/story-e6frg7mo-1111115491036
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This is an interesting one.
I know my Instinct very well and love it to bits. I only use it in matches and am reluctant to use anything else unless I have had it for a long long while in nets.
However, I have used lots of other people's bats in nets, and some old bats, and I tend to find the middle of them quite easily after a couple of minutes. In the nets I am not that fussed, but in terms of match bat, I have one bat and one bat only until it breaks.
In then end a bat is there to be used, and it is willow, a natural material, so it will break. Thus I use one till it breaks, and when it does, despite me taking care of it well, that's fine.
Swapping bats in the middle is very hard to adjust to at times I find...
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In answer to the original question. Yes
I hate using other people's bats firstly, but if I borrow a bat, how aggressive I am batting depends on the owner. If my best mate leant me his Hunts County I would play normally without a care, if our 2s skipper leant me his dad's GM Maxi Original, I would p[lay more carefully and try and middle more.
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This might sound a bit silly , but that gray nicolls quantum i have has a very sqaure toe making me always playing straight its hard to play cross bat shots with the bat .
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You're right, it does sound silly
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There you go, buy his bat and you will play the ball straight.
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CD, I really hope you don't take the advice in the wrong way. Six months ago my reply would have been quite different, but quite frankly, I have now seen through the BS and mystique that is associated with bat making.
Choose a bat, if it works for you, stick with it. Simple. :)
And please, only one pair of pads per innings. The opposition may become a little annoyed if you call for a change of pads every 5 overs :D
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Hahah no in games it is only one thing, I never ever change anything in the game be it bat, pads or even gloves.
But I really liked what you said seriously I already made 3 match bats but will choose one from now on.
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Hahah no in games it is only one thing, I never ever change anything in the game be it bat, pads or even gloves.
But I really liked what you said seriously I already made 3 match bats but will choose one from now on.
Good stuff.
Now as I am such a good person, I offer to take your others from you to prevent you from slipping back into 'which bat' mode.
Nice, ain't I.
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Haha
To be honest I played 3 games and rest were washed out and in those games I just used Puma Iridium's (twice 3000 and once 6000 model) :D
The thought of this thread was in my mind for months, I last played with my MB LE in March (first week) and naturally I was slogging but as soon in next week nets I changed to a different bat (Icon LE) I was in different playing mode altogether
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Just be the player you want to be, whether it be slogger or top order stalwart.
Decide which player you are, then choose a bat that suits. Hell, if you do well with a cheaper one, stick with it. No shame in it. A bat that works for you is the bat you want to use, regardless of grade or cost.
I'll pm you my address, let me know when they are going to show up.
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The best bat I rate in my collection is a 3 Star that is because I got full use of the bat hence I know the bat inside out shame I can't get that shape again.
I don't like slogging I want to be a proper batsman on which I'm working its more fun playing a straight drive for four than a slog sweep six
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Then use the 3*, seriously :)
Long term, you will enjoy cricket more.
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I do use that from time to time, that bat is tooo precious for me!!
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Used someone else's GM Icon 808 today. Batted 'sensibly' and it payed off. Maybe I should protect my bat by not smashing everything lol
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What happened to your stick Colesy?
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Knackered and a bit too heavy. Can't wait for my new SAF to come :)