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Cricket Manufacturers / Brands => Ayrtek Cricket => Topic started by: Ayrtek Cricket on July 07, 2011, 10:52:11 AM
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With the season now at the halfway stage we thought we would see what our existing and hopefully future customers would like to see from us as a company in 2012?
Obviously our primary focus in on the headwear protection market and will continue to be into 2012 :)
look forward to hearing your thoughts
Cheers
Tom
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A masuri conversion for the air bags! We can send our helmets you and you modify them.
Just realised that the pumping buttons would be an issue! Scrap that.
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What is happening with the ACIS gloves?
I would like to see an ACIS Box
Also new WK gear
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What is happening with the ACIS gloves?
I would like to see an ACIS Box
Also new WK gear
I can imagine the conversations going on around an ACIS box...
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New Wk stuff could be an option but its a very small market to cater for given that only 1 person in every 11 buys the kit and some people have their chosen brand already.
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I'd like to see a far more cost effective Ayrtek lid for us average club cricketers who would like to benefit from the added safety without the added cost (over more traditional lids) Maybe slightly cheaper materials?
I appreciate that may well go against the Ayrtek ethos but the only reason I don't own an Ayrtek is cost, nothing else.
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New Wk stuff could be an option but its a very small market to cater for given that only 1 person in every 11 buys the kit and some people have their chosen brand already.
Which is why the genital protection market is crying out for Ayrtek technology!
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I'd like to see a far more cost effective Ayrtek lid for us average club cricketers who would like to benefit from the added safety without the added cost (over more traditional lids) Maybe slightly cheaper materials?
I appreciate that may well go against the Ayrtek ethos but the only reason I don't own an Ayrtek is cost, nothing else.
Well ahead of you with our new range planned for launch this Autumn
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Nice one! I shall be making a purchase in that case!
Seeing as how you've got that covered then it has to be protection for 'Steve and the Twins' as Tim has said....
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Well ahead of you with our new range planned for launch this Autumn
Will we still be able to customise these Tom as per the current ones??
P.S. The Elite golves are top drawer mate - very happy with them!!
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I know a lot of work would have to be taken place but how about a more traditional style helmet. Alot of my club are put off my the shape and style.
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Actually, seeing as how I am sporting the ultimate t-shirt tan at the moment how about a shirt that allows you to tan through it?
Shouldn't be an issue as long as you remember the sunscreen.....
All those long sunny days in the field and no decent tan as a result.....
That is a product I would buy.........and trousers..... :D
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something similar to the dukes dalek batting shorts. Brilliant product imho and knocks spots off the competition.
An even lighter helmet with better moisture control/airflow. If it sacrificed protection a little but was still safe (even disposal) it might have legs. My mates have bicycle helmets and I alway wondered if some kind of foam protection could be used, as they are very light.
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Will we still be able to customise these Tom as per the current ones??
P.S. The Elite golves are top drawer mate - very happy with them!!
You would need to look at the Elite helmets to customise them in terms of 2/3 colour finish but you will still be able to add a club crest/initials etc to the new range as well
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something similar to the dukes dalek batting shorts. Brilliant product imho and knocks spots off the competition.
i think Aero/Remfry/Dukes have the corner of the market covered with their strippers so no point in trying to reinvent the wheel
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Actually, seeing as how I am sporting the ultimate t-shirt tan at the moment how about a shirt that allows you to tan through it?
Shouldn't be an issue as long as you remember the sunscreen.....
All those long sunny days in the field and no decent tan as a result.....
That is a product I would buy.........and trousers..... :D
Clothing is a bit of a mine field so will leave that to the specialists such as D&M to deal with
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I know a lot of work would have to be taken place but how about a more traditional style helmet. Alot of my club are put off my the shape and style.
Tom went through all this traditional stuff, I was it's biggest fan! but no point or them making a song and dance about how their styling in all geared towards safety and then bringing out a different design.
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Indeed if you want a traditional design thats fine look to the older brand helmets, were trying to keep things progressing in regards to safety and know our shell shape and design works in regards to its deflective properties as highlighted when i spoke to Kumar the other week....he said hes only been hit once on the shell when standing up to someone who fired in a quicker ball which hit him and went for a one bounce 4.
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Tom for me the best thing you can do is keep specialising, but maybe make it a little wider and have it that you specialise in protection in general. Obviously people talk about Aero and their strippers, but protection similiar to that must be an option given to you. The key thing for you would be to "be the first thought in cricket protection" Obviously Pads and Gloves there is only so much you can do with them, but alot of people are paying more attention to their box. thy pads and chest guards.
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I am working on a new product Tom if you wish to get involved just drop me an email.
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Got plenty to do with our own products ATM to keep me busy.....
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more of the same mate!
i sweat to much in my lid mate even tho u have sent them pads to absorbe the sweat. but i havnt fitted them propa yet. because when i have put them in place and then put the lid on the lid is no longer comfy :(
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i think Aero/Remfry/Dukes have the corner of the market covered with their strippers so no point in trying to reinvent the wheel
maybe the case but none of them are that well known. I had never heard of Remfry before I came on this forum!. Hardly anyone knows about the Dukes shorts and Aero is hardly GM in terms of presence. I've seen the Aero thing on a team mate and it looks very awkward to get on. Honestly think a Dukes dalekless design, or something similar would be very popular.
As sweaty betty said, better airflow and moisture control.
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im actually feeling nicks idea! shorts with built in padding i dont mean like p2's but like batting shorts with air pockets in them? bit like ice cube bags
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Memory foam liner :)
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We have used that in prototypes previously but if used correctly the air should lift the foam away from ur head so it moulds to the shape of ur bonce therefore rendering the memory foam ineffective and an expensive option when not being used for its purpose.
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Talk about being shot down :(
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haha sorry mate, having done 3 years worth of work in designing the helmet and its liner its fair to say we have done our homework ;)
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im actually feeling nicks idea! shorts with built in padding i dont mean like p2's but like batting shorts with air pockets in them? bit like ice cube bags
Even some kind of stay cool solution. If you can have water cooled PC's then why not some kind of cooling in your batting shorts, even if it's tucked around the back somewhere area. A cool pack in the helmet would be a nice idea as well.
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As you are tackling the cost issue with your new range I would say that the only thing that stands out in your range as not being quite so special is the wicket keeping gear but like you say this is a relatively small market I guess.
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A range of charity styled helmets with some of the proceeds going charity. Like Sport Relief paint scheme or polka dots like Pudsey ;)
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Cost factor is being looked at and the aim is to produce a range of helmets that offer improved protection over our rivals but still fall into the different price categories so that people with differing budgets can hopefully still benefit from owning and wearing the Ayrtek range.
Keeping gear is something we havent really looked at updating as im sure Simmy will tell you, we knocked around with a few designs but found that people will go to bigger brands of specialist people for this kit such as Mr Wymer etc
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I shall look forward to seeing the new range then.
I can see exactly what you mean with the keeping gear. I wonder in this case if it is a range that is worth continuing with as it possibly doesn't match up with the rest of the brand.
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Carbon Fibre canes in pads
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lol....i wont shoot u down again Joseph ul think im bullying u!
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That chin strap to go into production!
A magnet in the ball and one in the middle of my bat
Scratch proof paint (mine's a state)
Improved grill materials
Pearelscent paint
A two strap style pads
Ayrtek box
Hover bag!!
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Have you been smoking something Colesy?! Or maybe watching Back to the Future II?!
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That chin strap to go into production!- TICK
A magnet in the ball and one in the middle of my bat-ONLY FOR WHEN UR NOT PLAYING US
Scratch proof paint (mine's a state)- WORK IN PROGRESS/ NEW RANGE WILL SOLVE THIS
Improved grill materials- ALREADY USING GRADE 5 TITANIUM COMPARED TO OUR COMPETITORS
Pearelscent paint- CAN OFFER THIS ALREADY
A two strap style pads- GOOD SHOUT
Ayrtek box- NOT AN AREA I WANT TO DELVE INTO HEAD 1ST
Hover bag!!- WILL LOOK INTO IT
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Hover bag is Steve's idea, but a good one :P
Surely there is a better material than Titanium for grilles?
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Hover bag is Steve's idea, but a good one :P
Surely there is a better material than Titanium for grilles?
There is, it's called a bat. When the ball goes near your face you use the bat to hit the ball away from your face. Very revolutionary indeed :P
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Surely there is a better material than Titanium for grilles?
the onlything lighter and stronger than titanium is Iridium.
unless ur nasa uve got (No Swearing Please) no chance of using it
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Diamond!
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not metal tho lol
diamonds are a form of carbon tho lol
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Wouldn't a diamond grill be very heavy? ???
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Wouldn't a diamond grill be very heavy? ???
think thats the least of its problems mate haha
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yeh somehow I cant see a diamond grill being a cost effective option ;)
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Tom, you could live upto the cycling helmet claims and just get a reinforced glass visor....
(http://shop.sky-pimp.co.uk/WebRoot/Store/Shops/es106613_shop/49FB/376A/948B/3D87/4902/50ED/8970/48E2/01052009017.jpg)
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I would like to see me being offered the job of modelling all kit?
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WATERBALLOON
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Be a bit hot under that cycling helmet though if your batting for a few hours ???
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But your eyes are safe from the sun
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Be a bit hot under that cycling helmet though if your batting for a few hours ???
Cycling helmet?
NO WAY.
And it gets hot under most helmets if you bat for a few hours, just saying... :)
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suppose you could intimidate the bowlers a bit with that massive black visor :)
less intimidating than the hannibal type face masks though .
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suppose you could intimidate the bowlers a bit with that massive black visor :)
less intimidating than the hannibal type face masks though .
Haha you're right my man ;)
Just realised I didn't read the thread. *D'oh * and so thought you were talking about the Ayrtekkers... :-[
Have got the cycling :-[helmet comment a fair few times though. But the team I played against on Saturday (Richmond) absolutely loved it Tom :)
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Good to hear....seems they are gathering momentum in regards to popularity which is good news
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Good to hear....seems they are gathering momentum in regards to popularity which is good news
Some, like last week's lot, have liked them but some have hated them.
They are a bit marmite-y I find.
Anyway, I think that although the helmets are becoming more the status quo around the county circuit, perhaps the brand would benfit from yet more advertisement of the quality of the lid?
Obviously cost would come into it but it is just a speculative suggestion ;)
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It was funny on Sunday, got a lot of stick for the first 5 balls about the helmet saying I should be in the Olympics, or should bat like Sangakkara. 18 from my first 5 balls quietened them down :)
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i think Ayrtek should bring a performance laminate out without the 10 month waiting list ;)
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I personally like the idea that was mentioned of the protective batting shorts but maybe along the lines of a compression shorts with a pouch for the box and the thigh pad protection in my mind it looks like these http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004LAYFE2/ref=asc_df_B004LAYFE23501807/?tag=googlecouk06-21&creative=22134&creativeASIN=B004LAYFE2&linkCode=asn. Not sure wheather anybody has done this before?. I would of thought this would be good because for example the kookaburra shorts the pads move inside.
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thigh pads similar to remfry..with a twist but still the leather
same extra hip straps
more protection some how
lighter
maybe somehow you can mould it to your leg (just a idea)
only small branding like the ayrtek logo not even the name as i personally like plain thigh guards i.e. bradbury/hawk
as this can be another protective product as big as the helmet and one you would be recognised for if its possible
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and something to accomadate a box built into the thigh pads but not bulky
dont know how pros do it but some aussie players like phil hughes steve smith dave warner have like a box puch the just tie on
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/107745301/Getty-Images-Sport
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/95052321/Getty-Images-Sport
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/85594022/Getty-Images-Sport
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cricket socks with a bit of padding in them for batting.. only minor
like on the insides of the calf/lef down to a tad on the ankle (so socks would be ambixdetrous anyway as padding on different sides makes them usable for right or left handers
just to help prevent things like this (tim bresnan after he middled on into his leg)
http://yfrog.com/kjibaifj
inswinging yorkers
just a suggestion
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Going back to the original question What would you like to see from Ayrtek in 2012
A car
An car sized Ayrtek shell with 4 wheels which is fully drivable. Plus it's aerodynamic ;)
We didn't have to be realistic, did we? ;)
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A range of futuristic, high quality cricket teas :D
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Revamped bat stickers. The shell and the softs look great. I get lots of stick for wearing the helmet but is more than made up by the fact that my mom absolutely loved it and she thinks traditional helmets are ugly.
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cricket socks with a bit of padding in them for batting.. only minor
like on the insides of the calf/lef down to a tad on the ankle (so socks would be ambixdetrous anyway as padding on different sides makes them usable for right or left handers
just to help prevent things like this (tim bresnan after he middled on into his leg)
[url]http://yfrog.com/kjibaifj[/url]
inswinging yorkers
just a suggestion
You have pads in the way, why do you need padding in socks...? I've never been hit on them!
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Good to see some product research going on!!!! How about a good genuine bowling boot that offers full ankle support? With only Puma and Nike offering a true bowling boot that wraps around the ankle now after Asics withdrew their 8 for 64 boots the market choice is limited. Also there is not a bowling boot for indoor use unless you unscrew studs etc and put cleats in which is a complete pain in the ass. So a dedicated full wrap around ankle bowling boot with shock absorption which is good looking maybe all white similar to the I pod style etc just a thought for indoor use that you can walk around in general in and a separate boot with full spikes . As i know my disabled players who have ankle/leg problems love the full wrap around ankle boots but with only two boots on the market now choice is limited.
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guys come on
ayrtek are a helmet company.
its like telling asics to make a cricket helmet lol
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Yeh the investment and time put in by adidas and asics with the ECB in terms of R&D would be years I'd think.
Some products are best left to the companies that are experienced in that area
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This thread makes me laugh!
Tom: "what would you like to see in 2012?"
Someone: "i'd like to see this......"
Tom: No
Someone else: " i'd like to see this...."
Tom: "Doing it already"
Someone else: "i'd like to see this...."
Tom: "No"
;) ;) ;)
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I feel the thing most people especially women, would like to see me with a good helmet on show ;)
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I'd actually love to just see Tom wearing his lid and full range of softs with a suit on a normal sky sports interview and wearing one on a live experiment where we fire bouncers at his head at 100mph?? :D pretty please.
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i think so as well. much like they tested the shock doctor!
100mph into the balls
100mph into the helmet lol
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yeah that baseball cup thing, cant remember its name, where that guy who came up with it proved its worth by taking one for the team!
Come on tom, prove your confidence in it! ;)
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I would like to see a very generous forum offer/discount :D
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As the helmets soooo much better than the competition shouldnt it be tested at 150 mph + ;) just to prove how good it actually is :)
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As the helmets soooo much better than the competition shouldnt it be tested at 150 mph + ;) just to prove how good it actually is :)
steady mate, we like tom and dont wanna kill him.
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thats the one!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C9aiWr0Vfg
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Can you only get nutty buddy's in America, because I really want one after seeing the video's on the nutty buddy.
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Can you only get nutty buddy's in America, because I really want one after seeing the video's on the nutty buddy.
Maybe an Idea for someone to buy some to save on postage
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[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C9aiWr0Vfg[/url]
The website for the Nutty Buddy is the same as the H4L website design, ahah lol.
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Ok I just found out that in baseball the nutty buddy is mainly meant for the fielder's, do they hit it alot harder in baseball or are they just not as good at fielding compared to cricketer's. The only fielder's in cricket to wear a box are the wicket keeper's and close fielder's so why do they need it in baseball?
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Ok I just found out that in baseball the nutty buddy is mainly meant for the fielder's, do they hit it alot harder in baseball or are they just not as good at fielding compared to cricketer's. The only fielder's in cricket to wear a box are the wicket keeper's and close fielder's so why do they need it in baseball?
And they wear gloves to catch too!
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Ok I just found out that in baseball the nutty buddy is mainly meant for the fielder's, do they hit it alot harder in baseball or are they just not as good at fielding compared to cricketer's. The only fielder's in cricket to wear a box are the wicket keeper's and close fielder's so why do they need it in baseball?
It has the potential to come back much harder, yes, and more frequently too.
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It has the potential to come back much harder, yes, and more frequently too.
I can understand that, but surely the out fielders don't wear them aswell.
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I reckon that this would be good for cricket. If a bloke can take a baseball at 90mph at a distance of 5 metres and be perfectly fine, then it would deffinately be a useful cricket box.
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I reckon that this would be good for cricket. If a bloke can take a baseball at 90mph at a distance of 5 metres and be perfectly fine, then it would deffinately be a useful cricket box.
I think you may find that the overall density of a cricket ball far exceeds that of a baseball. It still looks a good product that can be worked on in all 5 sizes available currently by Nutty.
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I think you may find that the overall density of a cricket ball far exceeds that of a baseball. It still looks a good product that can be worked on in all 5 sizes available currently by Nutty.
It deffinately does, but the products out there now are ones that they tested, including the common ones for cricket. Plus I doubt anyone faces 90mph from 5 metres away in cricket, so that should account for the difference in density of the balls.
I seriously reckon cricket shops should start stocking it.
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Cricket shops rarely buy stock as most are on 30,60,90 or 120 day accounts. Best off buy direct from the states in half dozens and share the shipping costs with your team mates (as Johnny has suggested).
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Preview of what the new range of shells will look like in appearance....
(http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq167/tom_ayrtek/CIMG2366.jpg)(http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq167/tom_ayrtek/CIMG2365.jpg)(http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq167/tom_ayrtek/CIMG2367.jpg)
Initial thought on price are to have a range starting in the £70-£80 price bracket, this will be a UK made product with high spec materials being used to make them from still. They will feature the same liner, chin strap and grills as the other models we currently produce but the shell materials will differ from the Premier and Elite models.
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loving the look of this and i will be very very interested when they are available.
Will the still be able to have club logo ?
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We havent decided on the finish we are going to apply to the shell as yet but they should still be able to add a club crest to them....anticipated launch is for late september
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These look really good, am sure you will be very successful with them if you can hit that price point.
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Yeah cant wait to see the samples in a couple of weeks time :) always nice when u see something come to life from the drawing board to reality :)
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Yea must be exciting times! Annoyed that I bought an albion earlier this year now >:(
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Preview of what the new range of shells will look like in appearance....
([url]http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq167/tom_ayrtek/CIMG2366.jpg[/url])([url]http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq167/tom_ayrtek/CIMG2365.jpg[/url])([url]http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq167/tom_ayrtek/CIMG2367.jpg[/url])
Initial thought on price are to have a range starting in the £70-£80 price bracket, this will be a UK made product with high spec materials being used to make them from still. They will feature the same liner, chin strap and grills as the other models we currently produce but the shell materials will differ from the Premier and Elite models.
Look really good tom, will that price include a Ti or steel Grill?
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Entry level will be with steel grille and you will be able to upgrade to a titanium as per our current range. Were still narrowing down what materials we want to make it from as there are some very advanced hybrid options we could/may use to make it light as well as very durable to impacts ;)
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Entry level will be with steel grille and you will be able to upgrade to a titanium as per our current range. Were still narrowing down what materials we want to make it from as there are some very advanced hybrid options we could/may use to make it light as well as very durable to impacts ;)
Thanks, thinking of ditching the masuri at the end of the season!
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How about a bat in the mid price range? Around £150?
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Preview of what the new range of shells will look like in appearance....
([url]http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq167/tom_ayrtek/CIMG2366.jpg[/url])([url]http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq167/tom_ayrtek/CIMG2365.jpg[/url])([url]http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq167/tom_ayrtek/CIMG2367.jpg[/url])
Initial thought on price are to have a range starting in the £70-£80 price bracket, this will be a UK made product with high spec materials being used to make them from still. They will feature the same liner, chin strap and grills as the other models we currently produce but the shell materials will differ from the Premier and Elite models.
£70 In Bottle green with Gold trim and I'm Sold!! Alternatively I am available as a Product Tester ;-)
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£74.99 and its yours.......
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£74.99 and its yours.......
Chalk me down for 1 squire.
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What are they like weight wise?
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The helmet above is prob the most expensive around at £850.....
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WOAH SEVENTY FOUR POUNDS AND NINTEY FIVE WHOLE ENGLISH PENCE?!?!?!
Come now Tom I feel your somewhat taking the Michael!!
Had you said 74 squids then we would have had a deal.....Blimey these companies get a little exposure on Setanta with a couple of zimbabians (sic) and all of a sudden they are charlie big potatoes!!!!
...When will these extravagant Softball helmets be available??
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WOAH SEVENTY FOUR POUNDS AND NINTEY FIVE WHOLE ENGLISH PENCE?!?!?!
Come now Tom I feel your somewhat taking the Michael!!
Had you said 74 squids then we would have had a deal.....Blimey these companies get a little exposure on Setanta with a couple of zimbabians (sic) and all of a sudden they are charlie big potatoes!!!!
...When will these extravagant Softball helmets be available??
Fran that's the best post I have read for a while.
Well done sir
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haha iv got a wedding to fund and every penny counts!!!!
Looking to launch at the Trade show in september with any luck....weight wise we are aiming to do two models in "plastic" one which will be a little more PIMP that the other shall we say!
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haha iv got a wedding to fund and every penny counts!!!!
Looking to launch at the Trade show in september with any luck....weight wise we are aiming to do two models in "plastic" one which will be a little more PIMP that the other shall we say!
ohhhh intriguing??! am I close with a rubberised matt finish?? (no euphemism intended)
I will be first in line for sure!! (at the forum special price of 74 pounds EXACTLY I hope!!)
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No they wont have a rubberised finish as this adds an extra process to the manufacturing line which is what we want to avoid where possible.
The price will be at £74.99 as per the shops which will remain firm as we wish to keep in line with the retailers and wont be undercutting them in any way, shape or form.
They will feature a high impact grade plastic shell paired with our unique ACIS liner, also we are looking to introduce the magnetic clip system across the entire range as well....so your getting plenty of bang for your buck!
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How much would this be with a Ti grill?
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Ti prices TBC as yet as the cost price of them has risen since June.....weve got it marked provisionally at £99.99 inclusive of a Titanium grille currently but may go up a little
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A transparent helmet.
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That would be an excellent price point to hit if you possibly can.
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A transparent helmet.
That's actually a top idea and would be awsome to walk out with
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You could in theory make one but it wouldnt have as good a structural strength as the more commonly seen versions i wouldnt think....cant go into too much depth about what were using as weve spent alot of time looking for the correct plastics
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maybe some more less, 'blingy' kit. the ayrtek stuff looks pretty nice, but i prefer the more traditional kit.
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Plenty of other brands will offer the alternative softs so it's prob not something we will address
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Transparent pads.
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Oh you wouldn't want to see what used inside of some pads mate....Having cut a pair open before it was quite amusing!!
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I used to have quite a small woodworm duffle bag to hold all my kit and I always thought some sort of helmet grill that was easy to take off and put back on would be handy. I always used to struggle to get all my kit in until i got a GM LE easi load wheelie recently. Makes it easier to store the helmet.
Not sure how the hell to do it of course.
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Carbon Fibre inserts into gloves, like my ones ;)
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Oh you wouldn't want to see what used inside of some pads mate....Having cut a pair open before it was quite amusing!!
share it with us :)
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Duffle bags with built in bat pockets
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Transparent balls.
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Transparent balls.
That has to be the silliest suggestion ive ever heard
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That has to be the silliest suggestion ive ever heard
Oh gee, whys that? Can you please explain the flaw in my suggestion?
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I used to have quite a small woodworm duffle bag to hold all my kit and I always thought some sort of helmet grill that was easy to take off and put back on would be handy. I always used to struggle to get all my kit in until i got a GM LE easi load wheelie recently. Makes it easier to store the helmet.
Not sure how the hell to do it of course.
I think thats a really good shout actually. Maybe a clip-on/clip-off grill? It would be hard to design but very popular i reckon, seeing as the helmet takes up most of the room in a lot of people's bags.....
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Oh gee, whys that? Can you please explain the flaw in my suggestion?
Lets see....how can you see a transparent ball. It kinds of defeats the purpose of the game!
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I think if you look carefully, you will struggle to see the seriousness of his suggestion.
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Lets see....how can you see a transparent ball. It kinds of defeats the purpose of the game!
I'm so glad we have people like you who can point out the error of our ways. Without you I'd have continued to believe that a near invisible ball would be a great addition to cricket!
Thanks so much.
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I think thats a really good shout actually. Maybe a clip-on/clip-off grill? It would be hard to design but very popular i reckon, seeing as the helmet takes up most of the room in a lot of people's bags.....
Cheers mate, used to wind me up loads not being able to fit all my gear in. I reckon if I could have been arsed to take of the helmet grill each time it would have been ok.
I'd be happy to test out any trial version for ayrtek of course (especially if they'd throw in one of those nice looking bats too).