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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: johnnyw on August 20, 2011, 10:40:34 AM
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An interesting side named for England...plenty of ayrtek on show :)
Eoin Morgan, Jonathan Bairstow, Ravi Bopara, Scott Borthwick, Jade Dernbach, Steven Finn, Craig Kieswetter, Graham Onions, Samit Patel, Ben Stokes, James Taylor, Jonathan Trott, Chris Woakes
Anyone heading to it? I am going to the match
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exciting young team that, shame about bopara but things are looking up, lets hope they perform..
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An Irish captain against Ireland, made me lol.
I like the squad, think it is good that without cook they have used it for experience for some Youth.
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cant believe Hales isnt in :/ whos gonna open with Kieswetter? surely not Taylor! :S
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cant believe Hales isnt in :/ whos gonna open with Kieswetter? surely not Taylor! :S
Completely agree with Hales, although he hasn't had the best of knocks for the A team.
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I say Trott will open
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I would be surprised if Trott opened due the power plays, want someone more aggresively minded maybe.
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I would be surprised if Trott opened due the power plays, want someone more aggresively minded maybe.
He's opened even in T20's, he'll open in that side.
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Weather is not looking good for the match...
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I would be surprised if Trott opened due the power plays, want someone more aggresively minded maybe.
Trott CAN be agressive, you should see him play for Warks in T20 and CB40 games
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I would be surprised if Trott opened due the power plays, want someone more aggresively minded maybe.
Before his test debut he was top scorer in the county t20 competition. The guy can score runs quickly, but even if he scores at a run a ball, he'll compliment kiesewetter's big hitting and aggressive style. For me, Trott should open with him.
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More than anything else, it's nice to see England trying fresh young players!!
Am quite looking forward to seeing who will take the opportunity to perform at this level!
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Should be a good un...all the lads are en route to London to fly out so will be a good experience for the youngsters. Should have gone as im heading out to Dublin on friday for my bros stag to watch the Eng vs Ire rugby on the saturday anyway!
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A shame you will be missing the match Tom , you must be working overtime on my camouflage helmet :)
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No time for that I'm afraid ATM with everything else goin on!
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Plenty of non English boys in this team too
Morgan, bopara, dernbach, kieswetter, stokes, Patel, trott
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well samit and ravi were both born here.
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Where's Stokes from?
Found it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Stokes
Google is your friend!
Can't see any info on when he moved here, but presumably he was still under-18 as reading up on him he signed Pro at 18 after spending several years with Durham Academy
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new zealand born,english qualified
ravi and samit were indeed born here.
the England side now reflects the multi cultural society we live in
about time too.
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Can't see any info on when he moved here, but presumably he was still under-18 as reading up on him he signed Pro at 18 after spending several years with Durham Academy
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Stokes moved to Workington in Cumbria with his folks when he was 5 or 6 - as his dad signed as a rugby league professional with Workington. He's a big lad, could have played rugby too apparently, and talks with a distinct Cumbrian accent.
Be good to see both him and Scott Borthwick given a shot.
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Plenty of non English boys in this team too
Morgan, bopara, dernbach, kieswetter, stokes, Patel, trott
How can you say that Bopara and Patel are 'non English'? Bopara was born in Forest Gate, Newham, and Patel was born in Leicester.
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http://www.cover-point.com/post/Short-Sale.aspx
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I think England with open with Kieswetter and Stokes ;)
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Any comment on the article Joe ?
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I have merged the topics.
as for the article the irish should ditch the chip on their shoulders.
if they really have an issue with the team Eng send over they should do their talking on the pitch.
if they loose then unlucky. the team going over to Ireland looks pretty strong to me.
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Why merge Buzz , my post has nothing to do with the op's here ? As for chips , I see Ireland may not rest BOD for saturdays game. (he may need a rest but he also loves stuffing England)
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How can 2 topics with identical titles not have anything to do with each other James?
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2 topics with identical titles both discussing the same match, merging them was a good idea. I think the better question James is why did you go to this section, see a topic already called Ireland vs England and yet still post a new topic with the same name discussing something that is relevant to this topic?
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The thing is, until Cricket Ireland step up and sort out some sort of first class competition then they aren't going to elevate above associate membership. Only needs 6 or 7 of the counties to take off, and would massively aid in the development of players. Would also likely lessen the losses of players to other sports as mentioned in that article.
Complaining about the likes of Joyce, Morgan and Boyd playing for England is pointless. That is a choice made by the player and allowed under an ICC ruling.
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The thing is, until Cricket Ireland step up and sort out some sort of first class competition then they aren't going to elevate above associate membership. Only needs 6 or 7 of the counties to take off, and would massively aid in the development of players. Would also likely lessen the losses of players to other sports as mentioned in that article.
Complaining about the likes of Joyce, Morgan and Boyd playing for England is pointless. That is a choice made by the player and allowed under an ICC ruling.
Presumably they need quite a lot of investment to make this happen?
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Presumably they need quite a lot of investment to make this happen?
True, but nobody made it big by thinking small. In these austere times, a little investment in sport can go a long way. I'm not sure what the audience would be like for cricket in Ireland, but if you could get people there and it takes off, then it would be a boost to both the local economies in terms of jobs and the local sporting scene.
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"the quality of side sent by the ECB."
As I said when I merged the topics, the quality of the side we have sent over is excellent, full of talented young players who if they were from other test playing countries, would be playing now.
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True, but nobody made it big by thinking small. In these austere times, a little investment in sport can go a long way. I'm not sure what the audience would be like for cricket in Ireland, but if you could get people there and it takes off, then it would be a boost to both the local economies in terms of jobs and the local sporting scene.
I think that Ireland could ultimately develop a professional cricket county system, but it would cost a lot of money. They would need to build the infrastructure - grounds, facilities, youth systems etc - and would then need to put more money into signing up the talent, and the staff. It would cost a lot to set up, and a lot of money to run as well. And to make it financially viable, it would need to eventually break even and our own counties are struggling to do this, and many of them are in a lot of debt and struggling.
So sure, putting the money into Irish cricket would be a good thing for the game. But there would need to be significant demand for it to make it even viable. Would they be able to pull a few thousand to the grounds to watch 4 day cricket, one day, and T20 cricket?
Maybe, maybe not. If they couldn't, the clubs wouldn't be able to build themselves up financially as they'd probably always be working at a loss. So I think what they need to do is set up say a major T20 competition and build that up, and see what success comes of it. If it draws enough fans, perhaps introduced a major one day competition, and see what success comes of that. And if in the next five years these two tournaments are drawing fans in, and the players are improving and more people are wanting to play and watch, bring in a four day game. And by this point cricket Ireland should have enough infrastructure to support it.
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Biggest problem at the moment is that cricket is too localised to certain areas such as dublin, north and north west of Ireland. The rest of the country, cricket is played at a very low standard.
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Agreed, imagine the shitstorm if we called him an Irish XXXX - but we all know he can do and say whatever he likes without fear of reprimand. Why do you think he doesn't accept PMs - they are all monitored and read by the mods/admins.
On topic though, am looking forward to this game, we should roll them over given the quality we have going over, but am sure the boys across the water will put up a good fight, they are not a bad team at all in my opinion!
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On topic though, am looking forward to this game, we should roll them over given the quality we have going over, but am sure the boys across the water will put up a good fight, they are not a bad team at all in my opinion!
Are you forgetting what happened in bangalore with your full team :D
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Not at all mate, we should have beat you then as well but it all went a bit pear shaped! Are you going to be there?
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Yeah I am going up to it in the morning. Weather is not looking great but hopefully it will stay fine.
Here is a little reminder for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBME8b7FJcQ
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I prefer this one John http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri9ckrokV94&feature=player_embedded
It really does expose the class that the ECB select.
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Lekka what on earth are you talking about?! I for one can't wait until we turn over Ireland tomorrow with our youth team!
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hes so proud of being irish that he lives in thialand ;)
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Taylor gone for 1
Oh dear...
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England seem to be struggling
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Morgan looking determined and in good nick! Taylor deserved his shot, deserves a go. Not sure about Bopara. But Butler is the man to get in!
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Admittedly against not the best bowling the world but Butler's knock was first class last night!
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Trott should just slog and get out. He's rubbish in this game
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He's still there, thats the main thing.
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Trott should just slog and get out. He's rubbish in this game
He is the anchor mate, you know what we are like in ODI, all guns blazing. He will start to smack it about when we need to
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So when Ireland come out being aggressive, and Trott costs us because of his slow run rate. I'll know what to say.
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So when Ireland come out being aggressive, and Trott costs us because of his slow run rate. I'll know what to say.
Trott has now scored fifty of 16 of his 30 ODI innings and boo for "there is always one after drinks"...
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I don't doubt he's a quality player, but I think in this game he's being under-par.
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if England win well done Trott
If they dont then bloody hell what is he doing...
double edged sword he is making the to much pressure.
Hate to say it but Trott played 3 balls back in the 37th over of 42
Not good enough
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Im with colesy on this - Trott is putting too much pressure on other batsman by facing too many dot balls.
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this riminds me of when i was a junior and told to bat the 50 overs which i did and we got 170 and i ended on around 60 not out.
they then more often than not knocked them off in 25 overs
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So when Ireland come out being aggressive, and Trott costs us because of his slow run rate. I'll know what to say.
You cant score runs sitting on the bench... I think Trott did a good job
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Ireland need to bat and hit straight to win this match, Tarf has always been slow and low and rarely rewards cross batted shots.
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Joyce gone
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Ireland missed a couple of tricks today. Firstly Stirling should be batting at 3, where I feel he is best and also Mooney should have come in instead of Jones.
Overall it was a shame the match was reduced but full marks to the ground staff for getting us a game and hopefully Ireland can get more against the big boys
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(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/54826000/jpg/_54826940_tv012724828.jpg)
Looking at this pic Tyalor looks minute compared to Finn, but is pretty much the same height as Samit
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Looking at this pic Tyalor looks minute compared to Finn, but is pretty much the same height as Samit
Is he actually having to arch his back to look up at Finn?!?
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samits only 5'8
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samits only 5'8
Wide?
Couldn't resist
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Looking at this pic Tyalor looks minute compared to Finn, but is pretty much the same height as Samit
I know that feeling, being 5ft 8" or so myself, and most the pace bowlers being 6ft 2" plus at my club... Gives you a sore back looking up all the time :D
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(http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq167/tom_ayrtek/5cf26082.jpg)
Quick pic from the eng bs Ireland rugby from yesterday....good game...even better night out!