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General Cricket => Cricket Training, Fitness and Injuries => Topic started by: jamesisapayne on August 21, 2011, 04:51:35 PM
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Hi all, I've had a pretty poor second half of the season and with only two games to go I've already started thinking about planning for next season.
I averaged 45-50 for the first half of the season, but a succession of low scores has seen this drop to 20-25 :(
My main problem is that I'm not around long enough to put a score together as I'm getting either bowled (regularly) or lbw (not as much)
I was wondering if there is a technical reason why I'm getting bowled so much? Can anyone help/recommend drills etc as it's beginning to get on my nerves. Is it a setup problem, not watching the ball on to the bat, a crooked downswing??
Thanks,
James
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Over-analysing will often do more damage than good. Lots of people try too hard to rectify something that may have existed once in an innings and create more issues. I personally would use the last two games to play through with no pressure and i am sure you will hit a good score. A good read for me is batting mechanics by Gary Palmer as much as you will learn something about your own biomechanics it also offers a lot in mental set-up.
I personally do not think you can develop set-up flaws quickly, so would assume it would be more down to mindset and sometimes bad luck too. The main thing is to take something from each game no matter how difficult that me be.
Your core attributes will not have left you, take your time at the crease and watch the ball... and tell yourself to watch the ball...each and every delivery of every over... before you know it you'll be an hour in and hitting beachball!
Keep us posted!
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I find if I take up off stump guard, It stops me from getting lbw/bowled. Might sound odd but it works for me.
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I can't really help as top score this year is 37, too many 10-15's, just believe in yourself & keep working hard.
Myself had only half a poor season last year & poor season this year if it doesnt happen now sure i am due a good season very soon.
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may be need Buzz clinics, also get me head sorted
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hello, being bowled or lbw a lot typically suggests you are playing across the line or you are falling over as you head is not in the right place...
I would be happy to help. either put up here or pm me as much info as you can about your batting, even better video yourself...
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i tend to find some times when i am having a bad run i try over concentrate etc...
if i go into bat and think (No Swearing Please) it and just bat freely and just try and smash works out ok. well it did for me today after 3-4 low scores
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Mate get on the bowling machine or have someone give you throw downs.
Set up a video camera of you hitting balls then watch over and see where you're going wrong.
A lot of the time it comes down to your head position or back lift.
In watching yourself you will see where you're going wrong straight away
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hello, being bowled or lbw a lot typically suggests you are playing across the line or you are falling over as you head is not in the right place...
I would be happy to help. either put up here or pm me as much info as you can about your batting, even better video yourself...
That's what I have been told by a couple players at the club Buzz. I'll try and get to a bowling machine and take some footage so you'll have a better idea.
I have got some youTube footage from ages ago here, It's not great quality I'm afraid.
http://youtu.be/GPZLU4Rh1PE
http://youtu.be/-CIpuecuKzo
Thanks for your help everyone it's much appreciated.
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Doesn't look too bad in all honesty. But it looks as though you're a candidate for falling over if the ball is angled in towards middle to leg stump. Once this happens you'll look to play the ball around the front pad and play it squarer than it should be.
You're ok outside the off stump, because your head and everything else is moving that way and you can 'get away with it'
Would suggest you look to build a more solid base and practice on driving making sure to retain your balance and 'hold the shot'. It may help in the short term to feel like you're keeping more weight on your heels than normal.
Good luck, a qualified coach will be able to give you some specific drills and work with you.
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Doesn't look too bad in all honesty. But it looks as though you're a candidate for falling over if the ball is angled in towards middle to leg stump. Once this happens you'll look to play the ball around the front pad and play it squarer than it should be.
You're ok outside the off stump, because your head and everything else is moving that way and you can 'get away with it'
Would suggest you look to build a more solid base and practice on driving making sure to retain your balance and 'hold the shot'. It may help in the short term to feel like you're keeping more weight on your heels than normal.
Good luck, a qualified coach will be able to give you some specific drills and work with you.
Ok thanks no1northenbloke,
I forgot to add these! A lot more recent…
http://youtu.be/MPyQg4jLNkw
http://youtu.be/lMgwQjOe4f4
http://youtu.be/EHEEiw1JG4w
http://youtu.be/nYSbEFhKpnw
http://youtu.be/BpD3ZqBzUAw
Regards,
James
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no worries. Just had a look at the last vid - first movement is getting your front leg across, which you then play around. Most of the shots you're looking to play through square/midwicket you would be better of playing midwicket/midon. You can't do this at the moment because of the initial movement.
If I was bowling at you - 3 to 4 balls foot or so outside off get you reaching for it then 5th ball bang straight. So that's something to be aware of when you are batting - don't get too committed too early - and be aware that the bowler should have a plan...
Getting a solid base is vital... you'll find you time it better, get more power into it and be able to hold the shot better.
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no worries. Just had a look at the last vid - first movement is getting your front leg across, which you then play around. Most of the shots you're looking to play through square/midwicket you would be better of playing midwicket/midon. You can't do this at the moment because of the initial movement.
If I was bowling at you - 3 to 4 balls foot or so outside off get you reaching for it then 5th ball bang straight. So that's something to be aware of when you are batting - don't get too committed too early - and be aware that the bowler should have a plan...
Getting a solid base is vital... you'll find you time it better, get more power into it and be able to hold the shot better.
Great advice thanks. I'm not sure how I would go about getting a solid base though. Wider stance, lean more to leg side? Is it a feel thing where you feel like someone couldn't tip you over?
James
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where are you based James?
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Hi Buzz, I'm in Bridgwater, Somerset. Wurzel country!
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By getting a stable base, it basically means being balanced. Once your head goes to far over to the offside your bodyweight follows it... It's something that is really common and is something that most good players go through from time to time.
Try this.... it sounds really basic, but it will help. Get someone to literally drop balls just in front of you then drive straight. Don't worry about power, just make sure you don't fall over during the shot and that you hold the position. Once you can do this comfortably then get the dropper to drop balls so you can on drive them, then off drive alternately. After that throw downs. Same thing again. Hold the shot (don't walk after it!) Then move to some bowling practice. After a while it'll become comfortable.
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Hi there – I have had a look at some of your video’s (not all) and have a few thoughts.
Firstly most of what the “no1northernbloke” says is useful and certainly the exercise is one I would recommend. Actually as is the comment that when you are out of form trying to hit into the “V”
For me your issues are to do with where your hands are and the fact that you are on the move through your shot, you aren’t still and balanced.
Starting with your hands – I think they are tucked into your hips too much – this means that you can’t bring the bat through straight – it may be because you are on your heals a little but it doesn’t allow for you to play “natural” shots, some of your shots can look a little “forced”. The way to correct this is when you lift your bat up, don’t pull it into your waist, push your hands back over the off stump. It will allow the bat to come down straighter too.
Secondly, when you play your shots you need to remain stiller, you have a tendency to walk through the shot, which means you aren’t in a compact place to hit the ball. This will take a while as it looks a little ingrained in your play - this is what is meant when they say you need a “stronger base”. You don’t need to change to a wider stance or anything like that, just to stay relaxed, play the ball a little later and with more “hands” and less force - i.e. look for timing rather than power. Try to be as natural with your shot play as possible.
Your best bet, in my view is to have a load of throw downs and to get used to holding your shape and staying still after each shot.
I hope that helps
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Hi there, I could explain every single flaw I would change but really the main point is the head position and if you focus on the one thing it’ll solve a lot of your problems.
The head position will sort out your leaning and falling over, keep eyes level, no bouncing of the body pre delivery, point the nose at the bowler, adjust from the hips to make it comfortable to do so.
The walking post shot is actually a sign that you don’t use the body itself to create power but only the arms.
You CAN keep the hands close to the body, but this has consequences limiting specifics shots you can play, like Buzz said let them leave the body slightly 1-2 inches away from the bodybut do no more than that though, it takes about 5 times more energy to hit a ball if your backlift comes from gully with extended arms and you cant pull out and readjust shots easily.
Your setup isn’t ideal, you “step into” shots rather than get the body weight into them, this is a stance issue but say if you drive a ball and I defend/punch one we’d probably hit the ball a similar distance. You jab at the ball using just the arms rather than the entire upperbody in sequence.
You have good hand eye co ordination thought for someone with your flaws so focus on the positives, change your head position, stay more still pre delivery, hire a coach who understands how to use the body better in your part of England and you could be a good player.
Good luck