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jamesisapayne

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Can't buy a run. Keep getting bowled or lbw
« on: August 21, 2011, 04:51:35 PM »

Hi all, I've had a pretty poor second half of the season and with only two games to go I've already started thinking about planning for next season.

I averaged 45-50 for the first half of the season, but a succession of low scores has seen this drop to 20-25 :(

My main problem is that I'm not around long enough to put a score together as I'm getting either bowled (regularly) or lbw (not as much)

I was wondering if there is a technical reason why I'm getting bowled so much? Can anyone help/recommend drills etc as it's beginning to get on my nerves. Is it a setup problem, not watching the ball on to the bat, a crooked downswing??

Thanks,

James
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Re: Can't buy a run. Keep getting bowled or lbw
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2011, 05:05:58 PM »

Over-analysing will often do more damage than good. Lots of people try too hard to rectify something that may have existed once in an innings and create more issues. I personally would use the last two games to play through with no pressure and i am sure you will hit a good score. A good read for me is batting mechanics by Gary Palmer as much as you will learn something about your own biomechanics it also offers a lot in mental set-up.

I personally do not think you can develop set-up flaws quickly, so would assume it would be more down to mindset and sometimes bad luck too. The main thing is to take something from each game no matter how difficult that me be.

Your core attributes will not have left you, take your time at the crease and watch the ball... and tell yourself to watch the ball...each and every delivery of every over... before you know it you'll be an hour in and hitting beachball!

Keep us posted!
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Re: Can't buy a run. Keep getting bowled or lbw
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2011, 05:25:22 PM »

I find if I take up off stump guard, It stops me from getting lbw/bowled. Might sound odd but it works for me.
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Re: Can't buy a run. Keep getting bowled or lbw
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2011, 06:08:07 PM »

I can't really help as top score this year is 37, too many 10-15's, just believe in yourself & keep working hard.

Myself had only half a poor season last year & poor season this year if it doesnt happen now sure i am due a good season very soon.
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Re: Can't buy a run. Keep getting bowled or lbw
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2011, 07:00:32 PM »

may be need Buzz clinics, also get me head sorted
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Re: Can't buy a run. Keep getting bowled or lbw
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2011, 08:20:03 PM »

hello, being bowled or lbw a lot typically suggests you are playing across the line or you are falling over as you head is not in the right place...
I would be happy to help. either put up here or pm me as much info as you can about your batting, even better video yourself...
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Re: Can't buy a run. Keep getting bowled or lbw
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2011, 08:25:14 PM »

i tend to find some times when i am having a bad run i try over concentrate etc...

if i go into bat and think (No Swearing Please) it and just bat freely and just try and smash works out ok. well it did for me today after 3-4 low scores
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Re: Can't buy a run. Keep getting bowled or lbw
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2011, 08:31:59 PM »

Mate get on the bowling machine or have someone give you throw downs.
Set up a video camera of you hitting balls then watch over and see where you're going wrong.

A lot of the time it comes down to your head position or back lift.
In watching yourself you will see where you're going wrong straight away
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Re: Can't buy a run. Keep getting bowled or lbw
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2011, 08:02:53 AM »

hello, being bowled or lbw a lot typically suggests you are playing across the line or you are falling over as you head is not in the right place...
I would be happy to help. either put up here or pm me as much info as you can about your batting, even better video yourself...
That's what I have been told by a couple players at the club Buzz. I'll try and get to a bowling machine and take some footage so you'll have a better idea.

I have got some youTube footage from ages ago here, It's not great quality I'm afraid.




Thanks for your help everyone it's much appreciated.

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Re: Can't buy a run. Keep getting bowled or lbw
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2011, 09:58:23 AM »

Doesn't look too bad in all honesty. But it looks as though you're a candidate for falling over if the ball is angled in towards middle to leg stump. Once this happens you'll look to play the ball around the front pad and play it squarer than it should be.

You're ok outside the off stump, because your head and everything else is moving that way and you can 'get away with it'

Would suggest you look to build a more solid base and practice on driving making sure to retain your balance and 'hold the shot'. It may help in the short term to feel like you're keeping more weight on your heels than normal.

Good luck, a qualified coach will be able to give you some specific drills and work with you.
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Re: Can't buy a run. Keep getting bowled or lbw
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2011, 01:36:28 PM »

Doesn't look too bad in all honesty. But it looks as though you're a candidate for falling over if the ball is angled in towards middle to leg stump. Once this happens you'll look to play the ball around the front pad and play it squarer than it should be.

You're ok outside the off stump, because your head and everything else is moving that way and you can 'get away with it'

Would suggest you look to build a more solid base and practice on driving making sure to retain your balance and 'hold the shot'. It may help in the short term to feel like you're keeping more weight on your heels than normal.

Good luck, a qualified coach will be able to give you some specific drills and work with you.

Ok thanks no1northenbloke,

I forgot to add these! A lot more recent…




http://youtu.be/nYSbEFhKpnw (Embedding disabled, limit reached)
http://youtu.be/BpD3ZqBzUAw (Embedding disabled, limit reached)

Regards,

James
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Re: Can't buy a run. Keep getting bowled or lbw
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2011, 03:58:11 PM »

no worries. Just had a look at the last vid - first movement is getting your front leg across, which you then play around. Most of the shots you're looking to play through square/midwicket you would be better of playing midwicket/midon. You can't do this at the moment because of the initial movement.

If I was bowling at you - 3 to 4 balls foot or so outside off get you reaching for it then 5th ball bang straight. So that's something to be aware of when you are batting  - don't get too committed too early - and be aware that the bowler should have a plan...

Getting a solid base is vital...  you'll find you time it better, get more power into it and be able to hold the shot better.
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Re: Can't buy a run. Keep getting bowled or lbw
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2011, 04:07:36 PM »

no worries. Just had a look at the last vid - first movement is getting your front leg across, which you then play around. Most of the shots you're looking to play through square/midwicket you would be better of playing midwicket/midon. You can't do this at the moment because of the initial movement.

If I was bowling at you - 3 to 4 balls foot or so outside off get you reaching for it then 5th ball bang straight. So that's something to be aware of when you are batting  - don't get too committed too early - and be aware that the bowler should have a plan...

Getting a solid base is vital...  you'll find you time it better, get more power into it and be able to hold the shot better.
Great advice thanks. I'm not sure how I would go about getting a solid base though. Wider stance, lean more to leg side? Is it a feel thing where you feel like someone couldn't tip you over?

James
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Re: Can't buy a run. Keep getting bowled or lbw
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2011, 07:52:54 PM »

where are you based James?
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Re: Can't buy a run. Keep getting bowled or lbw
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2011, 09:14:55 PM »

Hi Buzz, I'm in Bridgwater, Somerset. Wurzel country!
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