Custom Bats Cricket Forum
Equipment => Helmets => Topic started by: Lekka Global Alliance on September 07, 2011, 09:16:11 AM
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http://www.albioncricket.com/
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Tom - you might need to have a word to them about the "safest and lightest helmet available" comment...
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They also have heaps of new youtube videos - http://www.youtube.com/user/albioncricket
My favourite is where they say the carbon fibre construction is unique on the ulitmate 98, ahaha my but crack it is.
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Tom - you might need to have a word to them about the "safest and lightest helmet available" comment...
I reckon they are trying to be clever and they mean it as in the safest and lightest availiable that is stocked by cricket retailers, but even then it's not true as my Masuri TI is lighter than the ultimate 98.
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Albion helmets are certified under AS/NZS 4499:1997 so they can claim/say what they wish to without recourse.
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I don't see how this standard can protect them for saying something that they cannot back up (assuming Tom is correct of course!). I admit I wont be paying the AU$23 to download the document, but it don't believe it will be designed to stop them posting "possibly not factual information" on their website.
It is http://webstore.ansi.org/RecordDetail.aspx?sku=AS%2FNZS+4499.2%3A1997 if anyone else is happy to pay the cash!
Protective headgear for cricket - Temple protectors (FOREIGN STANDARD)
Specifies requirements for temple protectors to be attached to cricket helmets to mitigate the effects of a blow to the side of the head by a cricket ball. Includes construction, testing and labelling requirements. Temple protectors complying with this Standard are not intended to protect wearers against a severe blow from a cricket bat.
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(assuming Tom is correct of course!)
Best leave it there Buzz.
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How about an independent body undertakes some tests?
I think we need a CBF research facility. We need to come up with an experiment that creates similar conditions to the effects of a cricket ball hitting a helmet in play, a selection of helmets and then some way of identifying and measuring any damage caused.
I have a couple of experiments in mind, but we'd need to raise the cash for the helmets. I also need a couple of volunteers...
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Albion helmets are certified under AS/NZS 4499:1997 so they can claim/say what they wish to without recourse.
Assuming Ayrtek carries the CE mark and kitemark and iso9000 quality audit I can't see why Ayrtek can't make claims of there own without recourse
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Kitemark is a BSI (pat on your back standard) , CE is required for sales in Europe and AS/NSZ 4499:1997 is for Australia and New Zealand.
ISO9000 has nothing to do with helmets or products what so ever.
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Kitemark
This is the British Standards Institution (BSI) Certification mark. In order to achieve it the company has to have the product successfully tested to a standard, in this case British Standard 7928 (1998). They also have to have helmets from each batch tested and have an ISO 9000 quality system audited by BSI.
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Ok Number4 , which other testing bodies issue "The Kite Mark" ?
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As far as I am aware the kitemark is only available from the BSI group
Which, by the way, has nothing to do with the original topic...Considering you originally queried the ISO9000
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The only reason the Kitemark is available from BSI is that BSI own the certification.
Satra or SGS do not offer such a certification as it is not a standard cert.
Read back , I never queried ISO9000 as the standards of the factory have no pass down issue on the final products.
Come back to me when you have a serious question.
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The only reason the Kitemark is available from BSI is that BSI own the certification.
Satra or SGS do not offer such a certification as it is not a standard cert.
Read back , I never queried ISO9000 as the standards of the factory have no pass down issue on the final products.
Come back to me when you have a serious question.
Forgive me... I must be reading another thread.
And I never asked you a question, serious or not, in the first instance.. You starting to talk gibberish
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Well tom had his tested against the then top of the range Albion and masuri and he posted the results on here for all to see and Ayrtek was the clear winner
Link here
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=4109.0
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Albion helmets are certified under AS/NZS 4499:1997 so they can claim/say what they wish to without recourse.
Claims to be the safest in the WORLD in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=undefined&sns=em
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A claim is only as good as the evidence to back it up....
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According to last weeks meeting with the ICC the aus standard doesn't test to a level that they deem sufficient as does the bsi which they are looking to revise shortly to introduce a worldwide standard for all to adhere too
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I should imagine you're quite confident
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Not worth commenting on mate as they are doing there thing and we are doing ours...the people who were invited today got to see how we function as a company and what our ethos is.
We've nothing to hide and would like to think we know what were aiming for :)
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No more NXT in there range?
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The NXT was a major flop!
I am tempted to go back to an Albion! The plastic one with Ti grill would be lovely
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I think the Albion grilles are the best looking and the one's I'm more used to having used one since I started, if I had to part company with my Ayrtek lid (touch wood I don't) then Albion would be my first choice.
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The NXT was a major flop!
I am tempted to go back to an Albion! The plastic one with Ti grill would be lovely
I have one and it is quite good, in fact I like it.
Even if its flop I don't mind considering how much I paid to be honest.
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I agree that both standards (1997 and 1998) are weak to say the least. A new safety standard is required but the problem is policing the products that end up on the shelves.