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[Lekka Global Alliance]

http://www.albioncricket.com/

[Buzz]

Tom - you might need to have a word to them about the "safest and lightest helmet available" comment...

[langer17]

They also have heaps of new youtube videos - http://www.youtube.com/user/albioncricket

My favourite is where they say the carbon fibre construction is unique on the ulitmate 98, ahaha my but crack it is.

[langer17]

Tom - you might need to have a word to them about the "safest and lightest helmet available" comment...

I reckon they are trying to be clever and they mean it as in the safest and lightest availiable that is stocked by cricket retailers, but even then it's not true as my Masuri TI is lighter than the ultimate 98.

[Lekka Global Alliance]

Albion helmets are certified under AS/NZS 4499:1997 so they can claim/say what they wish to without recourse.

[Buzz]

I don't see how this standard can protect them for saying something that they cannot back up (assuming Tom is correct of course!). I admit I wont be paying the AU$23 to download the document, but it don't believe it will be designed to stop them posting "possibly not factual information" on their website.

It is http://webstore.ansi.org/RecordDetail.aspx?sku=AS%2FNZS+4499.2%3A1997 if anyone else is happy to pay the cash!
Protective headgear for cricket - Temple protectors (FOREIGN STANDARD)
 
Specifies requirements for temple protectors to be attached to cricket helmets to mitigate the effects of a blow to the side of the head by a cricket ball. Includes construction, testing and labelling requirements. Temple protectors complying with this Standard are not intended to protect wearers against a severe blow from a cricket bat.  

[Lekka Global Alliance]

(assuming Tom is correct of course!)

Best leave it there Buzz.

[tim2000s]

How about an independent body undertakes some tests?

I think we need a CBF research facility. We need to come up with an experiment that creates similar conditions to the effects of a cricket ball hitting a helmet in play, a selection of helmets and then some way of identifying and measuring any damage caused.

I have a couple of experiments in mind, but we'd need to raise the cash for the helmets. I also need a couple of volunteers...

[Number4]

Albion helmets are certified under AS/NZS 4499:1997 so they can claim/say what they wish to without recourse.

Assuming Ayrtek carries the CE mark and kitemark and iso9000 quality audit I can't see why Ayrtek can't make claims of there own without recourse

[Lekka Global Alliance]

Kitemark is a BSI (pat on your back standard) , CE is required for sales in Europe and AS/NSZ 4499:1997 is for Australia and New Zealand.

ISO9000 has nothing to do with helmets or products what so ever.

[Number4]

Kitemark

This is the British Standards Institution (BSI) Certification mark. In order to achieve it the company has to have the product successfully tested to a standard, in this case British Standard 7928 (1998). They also have to have helmets from each batch tested and have an ISO 9000 quality system audited by BSI.

[Lekka Global Alliance]

Ok Number4 , which other testing bodies issue "The Kite Mark" ? 

[Number4]

As far as I am aware the kitemark is only available from the BSI group

Which, by the way, has nothing to do with the original topic...Considering you originally queried the ISO9000

[Lekka Global Alliance]

The only reason the Kitemark is available from BSI is that BSI own the certification.

Satra or SGS do not offer such a certification as it is not a standard cert.

Read back , I never queried ISO9000 as the standards of the factory have no pass down issue on the final products.

Come back to me when you have a serious question.

[Number4]

The only reason the Kitemark is available from BSI is that BSI own the certification.

Satra or SGS do not offer such a certification as it is not a standard cert.

Read back , I never queried ISO9000 as the standards of the factory have no pass down issue on the final products.

Come back to me when you have a serious question.

Forgive me... I must be reading another thread.

And I never asked you a question, serious or not, in the first instance.. You starting to talk gibberish