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Title: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: Visigoth on October 22, 2011, 01:51:45 AM
I am aware of the minimum dimensions for int'l test matches (for non-grandfathered grounds), but my question concerns "afternoon cricket". How small does it get? (I know people play in alleys, and anywhere, but I mean how small for an organized team?). I ask because this is a problem with the ad hoc venues used in the US. We usually play on an oval that is 127 yards on the long diameter (line running over both wickets) and 97 yards on the short diameter. Is that hopelessly small??
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: Canners on October 22, 2011, 01:57:00 AM
I am aware of the minimum dimensions for int'l test matches (for non-grandfathered grounds), but my question concerns "afternoon cricket". How small does it get? (I know people play in alleys, and anywhere, but I mean how small for an organized team?). I ask because this is a problem with the ad hoc venues used in the US. We usually play on an oval that is 127 yards on the long diameter (line running over both wickets) and 97 yards on the short diameter. Is that hopelessly small??

you know what they say...... half way for women lol ;)
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: Visigoth on October 22, 2011, 07:28:37 AM
Thanks.
I guess that means 127 x 97 yards is inadequately small. I believe the suggested minimum is 140 x 130.

 :-[ :-[ :-[

Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: uknsaunders on October 22, 2011, 08:29:56 AM
play on plenty of small grounds, one at a place called Ledsham is 107 * 84 yards.  Not ideal but it happens. My view is side boundaries should be 60 metres either side and long ones 70 metres as a minimum. The principle is that nobody should be able to mishit a six, it has to come somewhere near the middle to clear the boundary.
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: roco on October 22, 2011, 09:00:32 AM
Smallest I've played on is about 80/90 long and 70 /80 wide which you can guess is a high scoring ground as the one boundary is the 30 yard circle and a great batting track
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: Colesy on October 22, 2011, 09:19:35 AM
These mottos lead me to speculate: (1) that you look like Woody Allen, and (2) you are quite familiar with the "inadequately small", and (3) that you subsist on a steady diet of Viagra.  ;)      My motto: "Effortless Superiority."

You couldn't be more wrong.
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: johan95 on October 22, 2011, 01:07:39 PM
My home ground's straight hit is very short, only 55 metres. However the ground next to it is an absolute midget, with 35 metre square boundaries and max 45 metre straight boundaries. About 280 is par on that ground in any format haha!

Very good question btw mate! :)
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: Colesy on October 22, 2011, 02:35:39 PM
Byo's ground is 55m straight and just 28m square one side.

I hit a one handed six :)
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: Byo on October 22, 2011, 05:59:13 PM
Byo's ground is 55m straight and just 28m square one side.

I hit a one handed six :)

It is short straight but not always 28m to one side - for the league games it is much longer as we play more in the middle of the square.  Playing Stapleton next season and that is tiny to each side....
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: thecord on October 22, 2011, 06:01:53 PM
Stapleton's second pitch was always tiny, top edged a square cut over slips for 6 there
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: Colesy on October 22, 2011, 08:23:44 PM
It is short straight but not always 28m to one side - for the league games it is much longer as we play more in the middle of the square.  Playing Stapleton next season and that is tiny to each side....

Yeah picked the smallest part square. Stapleton is small but can't think of any all-round small grounds. Places like Rockhamton have bits that are shorter than others.
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: Canners on October 22, 2011, 08:24:30 PM
You couldn't be more wrong.

Thanks Colesy :)


These mottos lead me to speculate: (1) that you look like Woody Allen, and (2) you are quite familiar with the "inadequately small", and (3) that you subsist on a steady diet of Viagra.  ;)      My motto: "Effortless Superiority."

Pensee de l'escalier [unable to find accent, sorry]: You can't be from Essex and be a big deal---a bigger pond, or backwater is needed. Overkill perhaps. :-[


Was just having a bit of banter on a very boring night shift, no hard feelings visigoth was just having a laugh my old mucker
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: uknsaunders on October 22, 2011, 09:51:56 PM
Some small Yorkshire Grounds:-

South Milford:-http://g.co/maps/hv45c

Ledsham - http://g.co/maps/dggq6

Wighill Park - http://g.co/maps/9h8c5

Old Mods - http://g.co/maps/nvhn2
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: jw17 on October 22, 2011, 11:56:20 PM
Knowle and dorridge 3&4ths ground has a tiny straight boundary which must only be about 20 meters at most!
Nether whitacre also has tiny straight boundaries. A genuine edge off a drive almost carried to me at 3rd man there!
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: Visigoth on October 23, 2011, 01:51:02 AM
I made a rather discourteous reply that I have deleted. I made it at 0300 (long story up early for 17 hrs of journey, back now) thinking I was being very clever.  I was not at all mad, but I was trying to "take the piss", or whatever you call it---but in retrospect a really impolite and immature decision. I'm guessing no offense would be taken but I feel better deleting. I had all day to wish I could delete it, BUT no computer at hand. Anyway, my apologies and I thank everyone for the replies. It is so easy to make a post impulsively. I will think more carefully next time. BTW---Essex is my team and much of my blood.
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: Canners on October 23, 2011, 02:02:49 AM
Another fellow Essex boy.....your alright you know :)

Honestly no hard feelings at all, in fact I found your post quite funny
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: Visigoth on October 23, 2011, 02:43:06 AM
Essex quite some time ago--- early 1600s.

Thanks for all the dimensions, and it seems we are short but not absurdly short. The "Small Yorkshire" post was really cool. I was surprised by the irregularity and the tree. Our ground pinches in to that 97 yard dimension because of a  tree and then bends out again. This is fun because that point becomes a target for glory and the repository of many a catch. We have a young sparse red maple that is actually in play, but it isn't a problem---sort of like that tree at one of the Kent grounds. I need to see if Nether Whitacre or Ledsham takes foreign players---the dimensions suit my game  :-[
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: ianbuchanan on October 23, 2011, 12:12:22 PM
It is short straight but not always 28m to one side - for the league games it is much longer as we play more in the middle of the square.  Playing Stapleton next season and that is tiny to each side....

Stapleton is like a snooker table! Fairly long straight but tiny square... Their wicket was a disgrace when we played there aswell, we rolled them out for 59...
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: patriotscreen on July 26, 2014, 10:49:58 AM
Never actually measured our ground at Wickwar CC in Glos but I paced the boundary one time to see if we could get away with a boundary rope and it was 440 yards. It is what some would say fairly substantial and not alot of 6's get hit. I've brought the boundary in ever so slightly this year to try and make it more interesting.
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on July 26, 2014, 11:57:35 AM
I played at pottern cc in Wiltshire a few weeks ago and the boundary one side was on the 30 yard circle. Bit strange.
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: Vic Nicholas on July 26, 2014, 06:27:09 PM
No wonder you blokes make a 1000 runs a season!

We play on massive grounds by comparison.

My home ground:

http://drsold.wix.com/oscc# (http://drsold.wix.com/oscc#)!contact/c1tl1

You can hardly see the centre wicket areas the grounds are so big!

I would love to play a season in England on one of those shoe box grounds!
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: uknsaunders on July 28, 2014, 05:45:26 AM
In fairness Vic you would have to hit the ball first and that's often the problem for most batters. If the ball is darting around and you get nothing to hit or even lay a bat on then it doesn't matter how short the boundaries are.
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: El Nino on July 28, 2014, 06:19:45 AM
Yeah grounds in England were ridiculously small compared to this in Aus.

My home ground here is about 60-70m each side then 60m straight one end and 50m the other end.
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: Manormanic on July 28, 2014, 08:45:49 AM
There's one in the outer Lake District - Silverdale I think - where you can hit some ridiculous sixes - I played there once, got bounced first ball and fended it away for six!
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: smilley792 on July 28, 2014, 09:58:47 AM
Parkhead sheffield.


If you play on the artificial(which we end up doing alot) one boundary isn't even saving one. You are in catching!
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on July 28, 2014, 05:46:36 PM
I love watching the modern trend of hitters up the order come out on bigger grounds and a wicket doing a bit and then watch as they flash at everything.. Nicking, middling and missing the ball.. One gets to 50 and people say 'well batted'... Really.. Really.. Still, it's even more amusing when most hole out and then blame everything but the fact they can't play properly and just want to slog
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: Twelfth Man on July 28, 2014, 06:06:14 PM
Sudbury in Suffolk is pretty small, as is Burwell CC in Cambridgeshire (especially straight on both grounds!).. Oh and Gt Totham is a postage stamp if anybody has had the privileged  to play there.
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on July 28, 2014, 06:11:43 PM
Thing is where ever you play, what ever the size of the ground, one thing is for sure, it's the same for both sides.
Title: Re: Ground Dimensions?? How small does it get?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on July 28, 2014, 06:29:19 PM
Thing is where ever you play, what ever the size of the ground, one thing is for sure, it's the same for both sides.
Not true! The ground changes size between innings.
When I bowl it's a postage stamp and there's gaps in the field everywhere.
When I bat it's a huge ground and there's no gaps in the field, feels like there's 20 fielders :(