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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: jw17 on November 15, 2011, 04:35:35 PM
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Thought i would start a general discussion on the series
and does anyone know why Virat Kholi is on the field every day for every second when hes not in the starting 11?
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12th man/sub?
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But for who?
Because hes been on the field for every second which means some one is fit enough to bat but not to field so surely he shouldnt be playing!
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Thought i would start a general discussion on the series
and does anyone know why Virat Kholi is on the field every day for every second when hes not in the starting 11?
I imagine one of the top 5 fancied a rest
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I imagine one of the top 5 fancied a rest
Sachin did a bit of grazing in the summer and probably had a word
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And they complain about englands subs!
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think it was laxman with his long standing bad back
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think it was laxman with his long standing bad back
So he can score 160 odd not out with the bat, but can't stand around at mid-wicket for 12 overs before the end of play. I call bull**** on that.
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one of the lesser batting line ups in international cricket (WI) are 535-6
gotta love test cricket in india! nothing in it for the bowlers, killing test match cricket. DRAW!
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The left armer for India was turning it square in the evening session out of the footholes mind... The Windies must be batting well to pile on that many
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What an opportunity for Sachin to score a pressure free hundredth hundred in a dead rubber. It's in his home city of Mumbai you say? What are the chances? ... :/
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flatest track ever
each one of the windies top 6 has made 50, so no excuse for a failure, if sachin wants it, he can have it
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WI have played spin better in this innings than the previous two matches. It's pretty dead for seamers but the spinners have bowled well, and to be fair Aaron/Sharma have toiled well. Have to agree it's fairly road-worthy though.
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im quite enjoying the other tests that have been on at the moment , i think it proves ot to get rid of test cricket at all , im really disappointed that the aus vs sa was only two tests tho
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There could have been a ginormous score for someone had they continued on, but wasn't to be.
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Obviously Sachin will make his 100th century in this match, that guy plays for record. I don't know who but I read on PP they will be giving 100 Gold Coins to Sachin if he makes it in Mumbai so that is no brainer and obviously he will make it. Guy plays for record and money lol
I rate Rahul Dravid as a better player to be honest.
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Rahul Dravid has always impressed me with his class and stubbornness to not give his wicked away, although he has never amazed me like sachin does, his 200* against SA was the greatest one day innings ever and will take some beating. If you start your career at 16 and play til your 36+ your going to have quite a few all time run records.
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Rahul Dravid has always impressed me with his class and stubbornness to not give his wicked away, although he has never amazed me like sachin does, his 200* against SA was the greatest one day innings ever and will take some beating. If you start your career at 16 and play til your 36+ your going to have quite a few all time run records.
Especially if the majority of your games are on sub continent strips that are about as threatening as Graham Norton.... :D
I do appreciate the obvious talents of guys like Sachin, Dravid, Laxman etc. They are wonderful players but I do wonder what their career stats would have been if they had played the majority of their games on different wickets. Fact is, the Indian fans like watching India bat so they prepare pitches to suit them and always have done. Most Indian fans don't even bother turning up if India are in the field.....
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Especially if the majority of your games are on sub continent strips that are about as threatening as Graham Norton.... :D
I do appreciate the obvious talents of guys like Sachin, Dravid, Laxman etc. They are wonderful players but I do wonder what their career stats would have been if they had played the majority of their games on different wickets. Fact is, the Indian fans like watching India bat so they prepare pitches to suit them and always have done. Most Indian fans don't even bother turning up if India are in the field.....
Top post.
I would love to see Indian batsman scoring as many runs on English, Australian or even South African pitches. In my opinion a player is who is able to score each and every part of the world not just Asia where pitches are batsman friendly.
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interesting posts here.Perhaps not SRT fans.
I'm not an Indian fan,Sachin actually averages more in here in England than his overall test average
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I think you can say Tendulkar (on test match debut!) and Dravid (every time he bats in Eng) have performed on foreign pitches but not many others, the latest crop look like they've never seen a swinging or bouncing ball. Suresh Raina looks a world beater in the IPL, out of India he's a joke. Sehwag, Laxman etc would have half the stats if they played in Eng/Aus or SA Permanantly that's a cert lol
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how many young indians grow up wanting to be fast bowlers watching this?
destroying test cricket single handedly, 600 plays 600
imagine jonathan trott on a road like that, he'd bat all five days for 1000*
shame, really enjoyed sa vs aus on a sporting wicket, cant stand watching generic spinners such as ashwin or ojha bowl a million overs, taking 5-99999999999 and being praised as if theyre the next shane warne when the other team make 500, two of the top teams on those wickets would draw every test, who wants to watch that?!
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The australia vs south africa test matches were some of the most entertaining test matchhes ive seen on T.V for a while because there was a contest between bat and ball instead of one dimensional 400+ an innings cricket.
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I agree
how many young indians grow up wanting to be fast bowlers watching this?
destroying test cricket single handedly, 600 plays 600
imagine jonathan trott on a road like that, he'd bat all five days for 1000*
shame, really enjoyed sa vs aus on a sporting wicket, cant stand watching generic spinners such as ashwin or ojha bowl a million overs, taking 5-99999999999 and being praised as if theyre the next shane warne when the other team make 500, two of the top teams on those wickets would draw every test, who wants to watch that?!
Bang on the target mate! Lovely post!
I don't even call SRT a great player, Indians call him 'God' but I call him 'God' of Flat Tracks :))
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Sachin's in...
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You cant say SRT isn't a great player because you don't get a record like that without preforming the highest standard all round the world.
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I don't really know why SRT attracts so many outright haters, I really don't. Look, I'm not going to tell you that he doesn't have a slightly padded record on the basis of years playing on sub-continental dust bowls, but you really can't argue with that weight of runs. If 99 international centuries, 33'000 international runs, an ODI double century etc were so straightforward, why don't we all go out and acheive the same...oh, sorry, we're not actually that good.
Some people refer to the idolatry that SRT obviously attracts in India and point tot hat as a factor buoying his average - I say thats crap. Sure, it probably has its moment, but the guy has to go out in disguise and has his effegy burnt when he fails. Thats pressure - and you have to admire some of the innings he has played under that pressure. My favourites? Well, aside from the most terrifying century I've ever seen in a Roses One Dayer (it was so brutal that Lancashite greeted him with seven men on the ropes in the Championship game the next day) at 17, it has to be that double ton in Australia - the one with no front of the wicket offside shots. Thats not greed for runs, its talent - talent that led The Don to describe him as the nearest batsmen he had ever seen to his own level, talent that had Shane Warne call him the most impossible batsman to bowl at...
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No matter what anyone says, I still rate the little fella one of the best ever!!
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Regarding some of the earlier comments, I'm fairly sure Virat Kohli is in the starting XI. Yuvraj was dropped.
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He's one of the best ever, but I'm bored of seeing him play at home, scoring runs. England made him look more than human. Always had talented batsmen around him if he failed (Dravid, VVS, Sourav, etc) so if he didn't do the business someone else normally did. He's good to watch, but I rate Lara's runs as better than his, simply because Lara carried that side's batting. He dragged it through the s**t, and managed to win them games.
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England did make him look human but to be fair, he has been on ordinary form in Tests (by his standards)
And yes - agree with you about Lara! He carried his team for a long time and sometimes won the matches almost single-handedly!!
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SRT is without doubt a great and will do down as possibly he best modern day player
very difficult to split players today thou
sachin
lara
pointing
kallis
Those old enough on this forum will remember a certain Issac Vivian Alexander Richards.
I did'nt think I would ever see a better player than him when I was younger.
But SRT is a great that's for sure.
Who is the best aside from the Don-well there's a question......
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Lara and occasionally Richards (ODI Old Trafford 1984) carried their side. Both couldn't be bowled at when in the mood. To me that puts them ahead of the rest, all great players though.
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Sachin is a great player, no doubt, but for the sake of argument imagine what Trott, Cook or Kallis's stats would be if they played on a road in every home game? In Cook's case, bearing in mind his age, we would be lauding him as possibly the best batsman currently in the game...
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Sachin is a great player, no doubt, but for the sake of argument imagine what Trott, Cook or Kallis's stats would be if they played on a road in every home game? In Cook's case, bearing in mind his age, we would be lauding him as possibly the best batsman currently in the game...
erm, Kallis pretty much does - or at least, has until the last 18 months!
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Really odd to hear quite a bit of Sachin bashing on this thread ... Cover Drive doesnt rate him and he isnt a great player?? Get a grip young man cos there are millions that do!
The longevity of this guy and the pressure he faces taking in to account the expectation on his shoulders sets him apart from Lara, Ponting and Kallis who are 3 of the greatest modern day batsmen in my book.
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well said PM,I hope he gets the 43 he needs tommorow to make history.
Very difficult to split the very top players,Sachin has done it with iconic status in India,how he bats under that pressure is beyond me.anyone who saw IVA Richards 189 no at old trafford in 1984 might think they wont see anyone play as good as that ever,then there was Lara's pure genius 153 no at Bridgetown when they beat the Aussies by one wicket.Simply amazing innings.
Then Sachin gets 200 in a one dayer towards the end of his career.
Who is the best? I don't know but SRT is a great of the game,that I do know....
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well said PM,I hope he gets the 43 he needs tommorow to make history.
Someone's great at maths!
I'd rather he didn't reach his 100th century tomorrow, but rather against one of the top test nations - no offence to the West Indies
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I would like to see him reach his 100th century but on a more deserving wicket.
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Its inevitable that Sachin will get the landmark and not neccesarily tommorow but definately soon and I wouldnt be surprised if he retires afterwards. I cant see anybody ever achieving a landmark like this in my lifetime(and im 38) or ever!
For sheer excitement Sir Viv ,Lara and Sehwag get my vote. Kallis, Dravid and Ponting for consistency over such a length of time. Sachin has a bit of all these guys under his lid!
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Was just about to say the same thing.....I bet he retires after getting his hundredth hundred....their is nothing left for him to achieve after that...
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He could bat the remaining days out for lara's 400 lol
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Was just about to say the same thing.....I bet he retires after getting his hundredth hundred....their is nothing left for him to achieve after that...
I bet he doesn't. He's said before that bating is the only time he gets to feel normal...
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bet he is out between 70 and 90 tommorow
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Out for 94 gents.
He was off to a flyer this morning but it wasn't meant to be.
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for some reason it wont load on sky go
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i also tried on skygo, didn't work during the england odi's in india either.
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What is Sky Go? Are you trying to see the Tendulkar dismissal or are you just trying to watch the match?
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Sky don't have the rights to the online broadcasting for the India games. bcci.tv/bcci/bccitv/community/livestream/livestream You can watch it here though, legally, etc!
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Woken up to find Tendulkar has bottled it again!!!
Would love to see the odds on him never getting it lol
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Sky don't have the rights to the online broadcasting for the India games. bcci.tv/bcci/bccitv/community/livestream/livestream You can watch it here though, legally, etc!
Thanks mate, that makes sense
Oh and cheers for the link
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This game seems to have Woken up now!!
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The way Sehwag started this looked to be dusted within the first session. Windies have pulled it back bigtime with the top 4 dismissed in a blink. Its going to be a super run chase in the next 90 mins
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I have raised this point before and even though it may sound like a conspiracy theory, I firmly believe these days all these test matches are more or less scripted. I have closely watched the the body language of players and it clearly confirmed my belief. All concerned parties have vested interests. There is a definite plan to keep the tests interesting and so more and more tests are finishing in the last over where all results are a possibility.
Not to mention the large amount of money being put on each match and there is a lot at stake.
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Behave lol
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I have raised this point before and even though it may sound like a conspiracy theory, I firmly believe these days all these test matches are more or less scripted. I have closely watched the the body language of players and it clearly confirmed my belief. All concerned parties have vested interests. There is a definite plan to keep the tests interesting and so more and more tests are finishing in the last over where all results are a possibility.
Not to mention the large amount of money being put on each match and there is a lot at stake.
might explain ashwins refusal of the second run with nothing to lose...
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that was an odd one haha, strange last over!
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There were lot of moments in the match which can be clearly questioned....
Anyone who has a deep insight of cricket and aware of cricketing situations would have his eyebrows raised...
Alarming to see Sammy didn't opted for fast bowlers until last 4 overs. He could have actually ensured bad light would come in play.
Umpires never really checked their light meters today for a change!
There was definite leverage on West Indies part while attempting for run outs or stopping a single.
Field settings was appalling and really strange, allowing free candy singles...
Really sad to see the state of the game these days.
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Ojha picked up 6 and Ashwin had 4 in the Windies 2nd innings, so all wickets to the spinners which clearly points to a spinners pitch (I didn't/can't watch but it certainly points that way)
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It's so obvious that test match cricket is so totally fixed isn't it? I can't imagine why the saffas or australia would post such embarrassingly small totals that all their batsmen would look totally stupid, if it wasn't for the money, or why spinners could possibly get loads of wickets on flat looking, dusty pitches. Or why SRT would throw away that 100th 100 to make sure of a massive payday from the bookies....
Are you sure it's all about conspiracy?
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the Indian players make so much money I don't see why they would fix a game.
not that money buys you a brain, the Indians should have made the 2 on the last balk to win the game, one of the batsmen just didn't run hard! madness. the other, running to the danger end made it easily...
I really don't see much evidence of match fixing in test cricket. pitch fixing... that is a different story. and plenty of poor captaincy, Sammy was poor today, unless fidelity was unfit, he looked like he could have run through the Indian tail.
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might explain ashwins refusal of the second run with nothing to lose...
Brain fade on an otherwise remarkable debut.
I hate the talk of fixing everytime something unusual happens in cricket. The saying "funny game cricket" has been around long before match and spot fixing were issues.
Enjoy the freakish and brilliant finishes of tests, don't tarnish them with bullshit about fixing. That does more damage to the game then fixing itself.
On another note, I love the way people come up with the scripted theory after the end. If its obviously scripted, and you are so insightful, why wait until after the end to reveal your theories of pre-determined outcomes retrospectively? Predicting the past is not that impressive.
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Remarkable debut, really?
Ohja bowled better in spin friendly conditions and he got a 100 on the M6.
Granted i couldnt do it but hes not the next best thing by any means.
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Remarkable debut, really?
Ohja bowled better in spin friendly conditions and he got a 100 on the M6.
Granted i couldnt do it but hes not the next best thing by any means.
Was that a spin friendly M6? The Windies didn't last 2 sessions after his century and a fairly imposing Indian lineup were 9 for 240 after that.
Regardless of who you are, or what standard you set (for others), 22 wickets at an avg of 22 and a hundred at number 8 while facing a 300 deficit is a pretty good 3 test debut series.
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Well he didn't get hundreds on the first two tracks and a pitch can deteriorate.
I never said he had a bad series im just saying he was helped out a lot by his surroundings. I would like to see him do it in Aus/SA/NZ.
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Well he didn't get hundreds on the first two tracks and a pitch can deteriorate.
I never said he had a bad series im just saying he was helped out a lot by his surroundings. I would like to see him do it in Aus/SA/NZ.
It wasn't the flattest pitch I've ever seen, lots of very good batsman didn't manage to churn out centuries on it. 15th time in history anyone has scored more than 100 runs in a series at a 40-plus average, and taking more than 20 wickets at an average of less than 23....... First time anyone has done it on debut.
I'm not saying he's a big thing, just justifying use of the term remarkable debut.
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Brain fade on an otherwise remarkable debut.
I hate the talk of fixing everytime something unusual happens in cricket. The saying "funny game cricket" has been around long before match and spot fixing were issues.
Enjoy the freakish and brilliant finishes of tests, don't tarnish them with bullshit about fixing. That does more damage to the game then fixing itself.
On another note, I love the way people come up with the scripted theory after the end. If its obviously scripted, and you are so insightful, why wait until after the end to reveal your theories of pre-determined outcomes retrospectively? Predicting the past is not that impressive.
people have opinions, let them be! no matter how outlandish.
recent events have brought suspicion of dodgy dealings in to the spotlight and if people choose to question an event or even a whole a match they are well within their rights to do so without being categorically told that they are wrong by someone with no more knowledge in the matter than themselves
please try to refrain from the use of swear words
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people have opinions, let them be! no matter how outlandish.
recent events have brought suspicion of dodgy dealings in to the spotlight and if people choose to question an event or even a whole a match they are well within their rights to do so without being categorically told that they are wrong by someone with no more knowledge in the matter than themselves
please try to refrain from the use of swear words
Sorry to disagree with you.
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please... i would welcome a healthy debate on this subject, two people of contrasting views do not have to argue, or enter a popularity contest.
the finale to this test match came across very suspicious, with ashwin declining a second run despite having nothing to lose (and everything to gain) by doing so, i have to question why, all seems very strange unless it was intentional
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Indians in poor running between the wickets shocker...
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please... i would welcome a healthy debate on this subject, two people of contrasting views do not have to argue, or enter a popularity contest.
the finale to this test match came across very suspicious, with ashwin declining a second run despite having nothing to lose (and everything to gain) by doing so, i have to question why, all seems very strange unless it was intentional
Would you think the same thing if it wasn't for the individuals being sent to prison recently?
Personally when I was watching it - Ashwin just looked confused, he may also have thought they could claim an extra half hour - I genuinely don't think it was deleberate, just stupid
Also they took on a series of crazy singles in the run up to the last over
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Would you think the same thing if it wasn't for the individuals being sent to prison recently?
Personally when I was watching it - Ashwin just looked confused, he may also have thought they could claim an extra half hour - I genuinely don't think it was deleberate, just stupid
Also they took on a series of crazy singles in the run up to the last over
i cant get my head around it, saw it live and couldn't believe what i was seeing, so naturally you have to consider fixing even if you dont believe it in the end, it does come to mind. thats the footprint that those individuals have left on the game im afraid!
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so is this "match fixing" only done by certain teams or are all international teams involved?
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Except for the wrestling, it's real for sure!
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so is this "match fixing" only done by certain teams or are all international teams involved?
All do read here;
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/interviews/article-24010033-lord-condon-every-country-has-fixed-matches-not-just-pakistan.do
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All do read here;
[url]http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/interviews/article-24010033-lord-condon-every-country-has-fixed-matches-not-just-pakistan.do[/url]
that article is lord condon trying to justify his work with a load of baseless accusations which he wasn't able to back up.
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Ravi Rampaul for king of the world, anyone? 71* off 58, putting on 70 for the final wicket (and counting) with Roach off 11 overs, 241/9 from 63/5 is fairly decent going!
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Unbeaten partnership of 99 for tenth wicket....
Reversing their order has finally paid off!